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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The industry representatives on the panel pointed out that
no-one with a cert III would be allowed to do any programming in the real world
situation through lack of knowledge. The absolute minimum for being allowed to
do any programming in the real world environment was Cert IV and even that was
monitored carefully. Thus the training package did not include any scripting in
Cert III because the training package is designed for training in real world environments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The IT people on the panel did express disappointment (after
all, I actually understand that part of the course as opposed to that
stuff about colours that I cannot even see!!) but there really was no option. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Scripting is GONE. Either accept it. (There is no choice)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Andrew Shortell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Braemar College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Pearce<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 10 September 2008 9:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new Cert
IIIInteractiveMediacourse ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I have been keeping track of the multimedia job ads through SEEK
and the highest paying of the hands-on multimedia jobs seem to be for Flash
developers. I’m not sure how we can prepare them for this option if we
don’t have scripting as an integral part of the course. I will be
including it as much as I am allowed under the new structure, but if it’s
not examined it might have to be as a bit of an optional extension. They
don’t all love it but at least the ones who do can recognise that they
have a talent for it and start down that pathway.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Brian Pearce<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mclean, Rachelle L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 9 September 2008 5:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new Cert III
InteractiveMediacourse ?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I’m sad to see it go. I’ve always liked the
scripting unit. The kids need something in there to stretch the brain
cells a bit, plus it gives the course more credibility I think, so it’s
not just a ‘make pretty digital things’ course. I’m
hoping to get it going in my school for 2010 and will stick some scripting in
there somewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Rachelle<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stoney, Marian Sy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 9 September 2008 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new Cert III
InteractiveMedia course ?</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hi Kevork, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
for one am sad to see the demise of scripting. The reason it was left out, not
removed, is that there was no scripting option to choose from among the many
units available at Cert III level. From memory, it is offered at Cert IV
level now. There has been a general slight downward movement in the level
of the Cert III units in the new TP as compared to the old.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
am considering teaching some Actionscript in the first year of Cert III as part
of the Critical Thinking unit, as I think knowledge of a scripting
language is very relevant in a subject called Interactive Digital Media.
The Author Interactive Sequences unit seems geared to web design - in fact, we
included it to ensure that web design was covered explicitly somewhere in the
course.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm
speaking from memory here - anyone else from the Advisory committee is
welcome to correct my recall of events,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Marian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of
Kevork Krozian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue 9/09/2008 9:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [vet-mm] Scripting removed from new Cert III
InteractiveMedia course ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Folks,<br>
<br>
How do others read the new course re scripting ? <br>
I have noticed the "CUFDIG302A Author Interactive Sequences" Unit of<br>
Competence as perhaps the best candidate for scripting.<br>
<br>
Design specifications<br>
may include:<br>
* interactive script<br>
<br>
I expect most people won't do the extra if it is not mandatory.
How<br>
does everyone feel about this after all the scripting they learned and<br>
developed ?<br>
Perhaps if any who were on the steering committee read this they can<br>
tell us the rationale behind the removal.<br>
<br>
Best Wishes<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Kevork Krozian<br>
IT Manager , Forest Hill College<br>
k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au<br>
<a href="http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
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