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<font face="Calibri">I have a server with 750GB server space and 7500GB
traffic limit per month and am happy to set up a moodle for the new Vet
course<br>
If you want me to do this please let me know, I would need someone to
volunteer to help admin (as I don't teach the VET course it may be
something I rarely visit.)<br>
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It can be set up as <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.vetidm.learning4.us">www.vetidm.learning4.us</a> if that suits,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.IDM.learning4.us">www.IDM.learning4.us</a> or yourchoice.;learning4.us - whatever comes
before the .learning is your choice.<br>
<br>
Cheers Ros<br>
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Kevork Krozian wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Folks,
There is a VET MM web site attached to these lists at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.edulists.com.au">www.edulists.com.au</a>
What a great time to bring it up to date by submitting your contributions via email to me at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</a> ( as also suggested on Edulists )
Also, all emails and attachments are archived at <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.edulists.com.au">www.edulists.com.au</a> for retrieval at a future time.
Let's do it
Regards
Kevork
Kevork Krozian
IT Manager , Forest Hill College
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au">k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au">http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au</a>
Mobile: 0419 356 034
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<pre wrap="">"Andrew Shortell" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:a.shortell@braemar.vic.edu.au"><a.shortell@braemar.vic.edu.au></a> 5/08/2008 10:22 am >>>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->I am happy to help but our IT support will not allow us to do it here
If there is someone who can be as generous as Kevork is with these lists
then I would certainly help
Andrew Shortell
Braemar College
-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Luke Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:20 AM
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM
Hi Andrew,
I think that the idea of establishing a common repository, both for
ideas and finished products/assignments is great. I'm creating for an
Online course, but would be happy to share some resources. I have been
using resources provided by this group this year, and have found them
invaluable in keeping the course up-to-date. It should also help us with
our validation, since it provides peer feedback on our work that those
of us who are working on our own would otherwise not have access to.
Luke Jackson
RTO Training Officer
Trainer, Multimedia (Cert II and III)
Teacher, Media (Units 3 and 4)
Distance Education Centre Victoria
ph: 8480 0197
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ljackson@distance.vic.edu.au">ljackson@distance.vic.edu.au</a>
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew Shortell
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 10:09 AM
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM
There is also the issue that all of the industry representatives on the
panel were of the opinion that a cert 2 was no use in getting a job in
the industry. The cert 3 is the minimum to actually be employed in
interactive media and people with only a cert 3 were not actually going
to be allowed in most cases to touch scripting in a work environment so
it might be more sensible to only have it appear in cert 4.
There is a great opportunity to make the course exciting while still
staying within the confines of the course - especially for the more
"arty" amongst us. The IT people (such as me) will need some more
support to be "arty" but the students should (I hope) stress less over
this course.
Anyone who worries about partial completion: if they drop off after
year 11 / unit 1,2 then change their mind a year later any TAFE should
give them RPL for what they have already done - especially if the TAFE
is their RTO
Any student who has chosen it already for next year is taking our
enthusiasm on faith and believes that we can produce a course that will
be good. So let's do it.
Btw: is there anyone who is prepared to set up a common moodle / wiki
for all to access and share on?
That could be the best way around the issue of resources and sharing and
we could treat it as common ground.
Andrew Shortell
Braemar College
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of claire
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 9:45 AM
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: Re: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
Because it was not possible to complete the new Cert 3 in one year,
there was a dilemma, ie that students finish Units 1-4 with only a Cert
2 and partial Cert 3.
I think industry, tertiary institutions and most teachers would agree it
is better to come out of VCE with a completed Cert 3. Doing Cert 2 and 3
really requires 3 years so some schools may offer the Cert 2 at year 10
and then go onto Cert 3 at year 11 and 12.
Claire Bloom
Warrandyte High
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<pre wrap="">Michelle Dennis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mdennis@mentonegirls.vic.edu.au"><mdennis@mentonegirls.vic.edu.au></a> wrote:
To me, it depends on your perspective and how you're selling it to the
kids. For my students, having a certificate at the end of year 11 if
they wish to do the 1/2 sequence is a drawcard and has increased
enrolment. Year 10s especially don't want to necessarily commit to a
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<pre wrap="">year course until they get a chance to see what it is like, but also
perceive partial-completions as being less than desirable.
Michelle Dennis
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Brian Pearce
Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 8:24 AM
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
Hi Ana,
I can see too, but now I have a headache.
Does it mean that we have to provide both Yr 11 pathways so that those
who chose to finish at Yr 11 have a "certificate". It seems if we just
offer the Cert III in Media those that drop out at Yr 11 will only
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<pre wrap="">a partial completion of Cert III in Media. Will this be any better or
worse than a completed Cert II in Creative Industries ( Media )? Does
the VCAA require that we offer both Certificates or is it optional?
Also, without seeing the details, it looks like it might be possible
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<pre wrap="">maintain some scripting under the Author Interactive Sequences UOC.
I suppose when we hear more details, including what will be examined,
the way to proceed will become clearer.
Brian Pearce
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] On Behalf Of Ana Tuckerman
Sent: Monday, 4 August 2008 5:25 PM
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: RE: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
Yahh,
I can see, i know, i can prepare.
First, we have to start calling it "VCE VET Interactive Digital Media"
NOT Cert 3 in media.
Next, why bother with cert 2?
Third, if copywrite is an elective, do we have to teach it for the
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<pre wrap="">12 exam?
Fourth, for those who want it, there is 3D (i have to say I'm not
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<pre wrap="">to do it though, its not in the year 12 course).
Fifth, we now have Video in year 12, AHHHHHHHHH
Sixth, I'm assuming that they want us to teach Web, in Author
interactive sequences.
Seven, NO SCRIPTING!
>From my perspective, I am just going to use Unit 1 & 2 to teach all
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<pre wrap="">software and concepts that they need in Unit 3 & 4 and just adapt the
units to fit.
For example i might use "Produce drawings to represent and communicate
the concept" to do a comic with storyboard, using flash with buttons
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<pre wrap="">a little animation (to prepare for 2d animation)
"Maintain interactive content" would be an introduction to "Author
interactive sequences"
And the Compulsory units, you could do anything. Just work in the
requirements with any kind of practical task.
I'm OK with it all. It looks VERY flexible.
:) Ana
Ana Tuckerman
Multimedia and Media Department
ELTHAM College of Education
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au">vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> on behalf of claire
Sent: Mon 8/4/2008 4:50 PM
To: VET Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List
Subject: [vet-mm] VCE VET IDM - see attached!!
The revised VCE VET Interactive Digital Media (IDM) program has now
successfully progressed though all the required internal committees
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<pre wrap="">processes at the VCAA.
Attached is a PDF extract from the soon to be published VCE VET IDM
program booklet. This extract has "gone live" on the VCAA website
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<pre wrap=""><!---->today.
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<pre wrap="">VCAA have made available an extract for both the revised Business and
Multimedia programs because they were fielding a large number of calls
and
emails about the programs for next year.
The complete hard copy of the program booklet will be distributed to
schools early in Term IV.
Let the discussions begin!!
Claire Bloom
Warrandyte High
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