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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree, Rob.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’d also really like to know whether
it will be a complete Cert II and III (I’m not sure if this is what you
meant in your first point.) I understand that IT went from having a complete
Cert II and III to a complete Cert II and a partial Cert III. While I’m
sure that many students would still undertake the course if it’s only a
partial completion, it will affect our marketing nonetheless. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Luke Jackson</span></font></b></strong><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>RTO Training Officer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Trainer, Multimedia (Cert II and III) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Teacher, Media (Units 3 and 4)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Distance Education Centre <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Victoria</st1:place></st1:State></span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>ph: 8480 0197</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><a href="mailto:ljackson@distance.vic.edu.au">ljackson@distance.vic.edu.au</a></span></font><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rob Swain<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 18 July 2008 9:44 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> VET Multimedia Teachers'
Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [vet-mm] VET 2009
Help</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>We have a State Reviewer for VETiS
Multimedia who is a member of this list.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It would be nice if they 'chimed in' to this discussion to
advise the <strong><b><u><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>VCAA
progress</span></font></u></b></strong> on revisions to this program.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The urgent info required at this stage, as evidenced by
discussions on this list are:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>- AQTF level - will it still be a cert2/3 combo?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>- modules selected for each year?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>- course title - is it media, screen, broadcasting, int dig
media, etc?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>At a minimum we need an <strong><b><u><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>ETA</span></font></u></b></strong> for when we can
expect some info.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The delay is disadvantaging students. I understand some
schools are cancelling their offerrings for 2009, as they cannot wait any
longer.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I have already cancelled presentations to a number of
careers nights as I have no info.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Rob Swain</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>GORDON INSTITUTE OF TAFE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf of Luke Jackson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thu 17-Jul-08 4:38 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> VET Multimedia Teachers'
Mailing List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [vet-mm] VET 2009
Help</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi
listers,<br>
<br>
Yesterday I attended a session run by Innovation and Business Skills<br>
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
which shed a bit more light on the recent changes made to the<br>
training package (CUF07), and the potential implications for our VET in<br>
VCE version of the certificates.<br>
<br>
The facilitator made it very clear that she has no direct influence over<br>
the units that the VCAA eventually chooses to include in its own course,<br>
but that the Multimedia Cert II and III courses we have been running<br>
have been very successful as they are, so she would imagine that the<br>
VCAA would try not to alter them more than they had to. Her list of<br>
suggested units that would match up nicely with those we already teach<br>
included the following:<br>
<br>
- Prepare audio assets;<br>
- 2D/3D animation;<br>
- Maintain interactive content;<br>
- Prepare video assets;<br>
- Author interactive segments;<br>
- Write content for a range of media; and<br>
- 'Write simple stories', which apparently relates to the sort of<br>
stories that trainees need to write when creating simple animations.<br>
<br>
The facilitator was also pretty clear that the term 'Multimedia' is no<br>
longer used by the industry; therefore, the names 'Certificate II in<br>
Creative Industries (Media)' and 'Certificate III in Media' would most<br>
likely be adopted as the official names, although she suggested that we<br>
(or the VCAA) might be able to make the sorts of topics that we will be<br>
covering clear in a sort of 'sub-heading'. Out of interest,<br>
'Multimedia', as a term, has apparently now been superseded by the term<br>
'interactive media'.<br>
<br>
It was a long day, and these comments are based upon my (sometimes<br>
illegible) notes, so those who were there yesterday can feel free to<br>
correct or add to what I've said.<br>
<br>
Luke Jackson<br>
RTO Training Officer<br>
Trainer, Multimedia (Cert II and III)<br>
Teacher, Media (Units 3 and 4)<br>
Distance Education Centre <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Victoria</st1:place></st1:State><br>
ph: 8480 0197<br>
ljackson@distance.vic.edu.au<br>
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On Behalf Of David Dawson<br>
Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2008 3:58 PM<br>
To: vet-mm@edulists.com.au<br>
Subject: RE: [vet-mm] VET 2009 Help<br>
<br>
Yes - it just seems so strange to run a course down like this.<br>
So there is NO Multimedia in yr 11 VET next year?<br>
Have all schools been informed of this?<br>
Has there been wide consultation? It has been one of our most popular<br>
subjects for years - under IT here!<br>
I just do not get it!<br>
<br>
<br>
David Dawson<br>
Head of Information Technology Learning Area<br>
Head of Learning Technologies<br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">St Kilda Rd</st1:address></st1:Street>
Campus<br>
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>>> SA@emc.vic.edu.au 07/17/08 3:12 pm >>><br>
As far as I am aware, there has been nothing as yet from VCAA.<br>
CERT II will be the new Training Package (Screen Media), which has<br>
quite different units of competence from the current Cert II<br>
(Multimedia)<br>
CERT III will be the last year for students to complete the<br>
Certificates in multimedia.<br>
<br>
Our students have already had to make their choices, so sadly I have<br>
had to opt for not running the VET course at Cert II level in 2009 as I<br>
had insufficient information to provide even a rough course outline.<br>
<br>
There are meetings going on at the moment discussing what will be<br>
required for the VETiS program, I know this is no help to your students<br>
-<br>
My solution for 2009 at least was to offer Multimedia as Studio Art<br>
subject, and hopefully get a better picture of the future over the next<br>
12 months, and see what VET course I can develop.<br>
<br>
Suzanne Arnott<br>
ICT Staff Support<br>
Photography and Multimedia Coordinator<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Elisabeth</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Murdoch</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
Langwarrin<br>
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On Behalf Of David Dawson<br>
Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2008 2:51 PM<br>
To: vet-mm@edulists.com.au<br>
Subject: [vet-mm] VET 2009 Help<br>
<br>
Has there been discussion on here re-2009 VET and the issues<br>
pertaining<br>
to the programming component?<br>
I have no news reader here - so perhaps someone can point me in the<br>
right direction?<br>
We have yr10s doing MM who want information, and next week they are<br>
selecting yr 11 subjects.<br>
Please help .. is there a 2009 course summary available we can provide<br>
for them?<br>
<br>
David Dawson<br>
Head of Information Technology Learning Area<br>
Head of Learning Technologies<br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">St Kilda Rd</st1:address></st1:Street>
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