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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree John. It would be sad to lose the
Multimedia focus in the Media course that is jam-packed already. I like your
idea Ric of retagging each stream.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rachelle<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Helmy, John<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 7 March 2008 10:19
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">VET
Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [vet-mm] the new TP
!!!</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The way things are
looking Multimedia is only a path way in Media, because all the radio and
screen courses come under the umbrella of Creative Industries. There is a
multimedia component to Media Studies. We might end up with a broader range of
students in our classes. I doubt there will be much room with electives to keep
the multimedia focus.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>John<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Luke Jackson [mailto:ljackson@distance.vic.edu.au] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 7 March 2008 9:39 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">VET
Multimedia Teachers' Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [vet-mm] the new TP
!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On suggestion that was
made about the name was that we keep ‘VET Multimedia’ as the main
title but include ‘containing the Certificate II in Creative Industries
and the Certificate III in Media’. The woman from the VCAA seemed to
think that this was a good idea. Hopefully we’ll get to go with it.</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I need a bit of
clarification: if we’re meant to be starting with this changed curriculum
in 2009, will students who began the (now superseded) certificate in 2008 be
able to complete the Cert III as it stands?</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And those four units you
mentioned, Marian, were from Cert II. </span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Luke Jackson</span></font></b></strong><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>RTO Training Officer</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Trainer, Multimedia (Cert
II and III) </span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Teacher, Media (Units 3
and 4)</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Distance Education Centre
<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Victoria</st1:place></st1:State></span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>ph: 8480 0197</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="mailto:ljackson@distance.vic.edu.au">ljackson@distance.vic.edu.au</a></span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-mm-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Stoney, Marian Sy<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 6 March 2008 9:18
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> vet-mm@edulists.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [vet-mm] the new TP !!!</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi again listers,</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>sick of me yet?</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It was announced today at the VCAA workshop that
the new training package is out, and it spells major changes. Believe it
or not, there will be no Certificate in Multimedia anymore. It will no
longer be under the Film, TV and.. (was it Radio?)...TP. It's now the
Screen and Media TP.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It does NOT include the word multimedia anywhere in
the titles of the units either, that I could see - I have had a quick
glance. </span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It's available on the NTIS site, under CUF07.</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It includes Certificate II in Creative Industries
(Media) which is 8 units (this is the only Cert II there!) and
Certificate III in Media, which is 11 units. The hours for each have not yet
been decided and won't be until mid-year so VCAA is still unsure of how
long each course will be. It is not like the Cert III encompasses the Cert II
as with the current situation. They are two separate certs, although they may
have some common content (such as OHS).</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>VCAA has not yet chosen the units - this will be done
with a steering committee of 10 that will include representation by
secondary teacher/s. I have expressed interest on behalf of PixelEd. About
400 hours over the two years is needed, so not having the hours yet is a real
problem in the choosing of the units.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Core units in the Cert III (? or was it the Cert II?)
that I noted down were:</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Critical thinking</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Arts knowledge</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>OHS</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Working effectively
with others</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Students who are currently doing Cert II WILL be able
to complete Cert III under our current TP. The current TP is
"superseded" but has not expired as such - apparently they don't.
VCAA are hoping to get the new one underway for NEW students next year,
because they are concerned that it is not good to wait until 2010 to
introduce the new one, dated 2007.... but there is some chance that it may
have to be 2010.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It may be that the hours are so great that the Unit
3/4 sequence may offer only partial completion of the Cert III. Apparently this
happens in other VETiS areas. Hopefully the Cert II will be only one year.
Possibly the Cert III will be done over the two years (like the old Cert
II in Interactive Multimedia (Arts)), ie it may be possible that we offer
only the Cert III.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The immediately obvious issue is the loss of the
word Multimedia in the title. If it were to become VET Media, we are going to
lose students, maybe even schools. Why offer two Media subjects? It seems
a real pity to lose our identity and unique status, the result for many of us
in schools of years of work building up a profile and a student following. </span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There is a precedent for the VETiS course differing
in name from the certificate name - VET Agriculture was chosen as a name
because the certificate name, Rural Production, wasn't popular, probably a
decision made by the steering committee. Maybe we should be coming up with a
suggestion for a suitable name and proposing it to VCAA?</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>On the bright side, there are two units on
3D animation - maybe one will make it into the final mix.</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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