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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi there,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>This year I had 4 groups in my class:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:19.85pt;text-indent:-5.65pt;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span
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style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Year 9 & 10 students doing Cert II in 3 sessions a
week<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:19.85pt;text-indent:-5.65pt;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Year 11 students doing Cert II in 5 sessions a week (=
1<sup>st</sup> year Cert III new course)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy
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style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Year 12 students doing Cert III) in 5 sessions a week (old
course ICA099– with study score & exam<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:19.85pt;text-indent:-5.65pt;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'><span
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Year 12 students doing Cert III in 5 sessions a week (new
course ICA05– with study score & exam) – different modules!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:14.2pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face="Arial Narrow"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The students were all in the
same class at the same time, although the Year 9 & 10s were ‘missing’
2 sessions a week.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>I did not receive extra planning time for this class. I
wish I could tell you I did & set a precedent but unfortunately, I cannot. </span></font><font
size=2 face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>L</span></font><font
size=2><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> I am not planning to do this again.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>As you can imagine, it was rather hectic at the best
of times and I wasn’t particularly happy with the level of student
achievement for Cert II, however I consoled myself with the understanding that ‘competent’
does not mean ‘can do everything really well all the time and from memory’.
I ended up having to accept ‘most things, to a satisfactory standard,
most of the time and sometimes with access to resources’. Which I believe
simulates the work environment reasonably well. Obviously there were tasks
& students that did much better than this, but it’s hard to keep up
the necessary motivation when you don’t personally speak to each student
each lesson (or sometimes each week!).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>As others have said, you need to be really organised
& keep track of the Year 12 SACs & exam preparation. It is very easy to
suddenly find yourself with only a week until the end of term & needing to
do a 10 hour SAC. Remember to allow for 3 weeks or so of interruptions! I was
amazed how many sessions students miss due to camps, excursions, sports days,
work experience, Deb Ball, getting car license etc – it can really throw
your timeline out of whack!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>I found assessment to be the most difficult part –
especially the practical tasks I needed to observe. Given a project, most
students are happy enough to spend class time working on it, but having the
time to set & correct or observe different assessment tasks and not having
them all due at the same time is a challenge. If you have access to moodle (it’s
free – you </span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>just
have to set it up) or NetSupport (free trial for 30 days…), or something
else(?) you can set up some end-of-module ‘online’ tests which students
can complete when they are ready. The software does the marking for you (and
tells the students straight away how well they went), so you can save a bit of
time on correction. If you allow it, they are able to sit the test a 2<sup>nd</sup>,
3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> time if necessary to reach competence. Obviously
this method of assessment is not appropriate for everything, but every little
bit helps!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Another approach is to pretend (tell the students) you
are running a Distance Ed type class, where you are a facilitator. Give the
students relevant notes & assessment tasks and act as a tutor, rather than standing
in front of the group as their teacher…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Remember – you need to look after your own
health & sanity first – you’ll be no good to them at all if you’re
out on stress leave! Just take it one topic at a time & keep the diary/year
planner close by.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Tracey<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><em><i><font size=2 color=green face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow";color:green'>Tracey Riehm</span></font></i></em><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow";color:maroon'>eLearning
Manager</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow";color:maroon'>Timboon P-12
School</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2
color=maroon face="Arial Narrow"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial Narrow";color:maroon'>Bailey Street</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow";color:maroon'>Timboon Vic
3268</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow";color:maroon'>ph: 03 5598
3381</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow";color:maroon'>fax: 03 5598
3507<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:vet-it-bounces@edulists.com.au] On
Behalf Of Paul Golub<br>
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2007 10:30 AM<br>
To: vet-it@edulists.com.au<br>
Subject: Re: RE: [vet-it] work experience</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dear Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I have been asked to teach a combined year 11 and 12
VET IT class next year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Has anyone taught a combined class before?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>If so, was it successful and did you get any time
allowance for it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanking you in advance<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Paul Golub<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font
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Maria</span></font></st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=navy face="Arial Narrow"><span
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