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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>You do need to differentiate between
<STRONG><U>subjects</U></STRONG> and <STRONG><U>classes</U></STRONG>.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>You can set up <STRONG><U>subjects</U></STRONG> such as
07EN1 for year 7 English semester 1 and have many
<STRONG><U>classes</U></STRONG> for that subject, eg 07EN1A, 07EN1B, 07EN1C,
07EN1D, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Robert Hind (Semi-retired)<BR>Ex Traralgon and
Ashwood<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">Laurie
Savage</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vels@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:vels@edulists.com.au">'Victorian Essential Learning
Standards'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:37
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [VELS] Quick Vic/Markbook
Reporting Administrative Timeline</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=640393423-13032007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The relationship between subjects to classes is
one-to-many, and one-to-many between teachers and classes. You need to be able
to identify classes uniquely. We have at least 10 form groups
per academic year! </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:vels-bounces@edulists.com.au">vels-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>
[mailto:vels-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Victorian Essential Learning Standards<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [VELS] Quick
Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline<BR><B>Importance:</B>
High<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Quick one Laurie .. do you really need the 07A 07B 07C bits
when 07 will do? From what I understand the software sorts out classes /
students by teachers for marking anyway and again into students for reports. I
suspect that Markbook exports course codes .. not class codes (or are these
the same things). <BR><BR>Thanks for the cue about the last digit .. notice
that the software rolls on a digit for semesters etc so I will add that in for
semester length courses.<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Course Classes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>================</FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>07ENGT1 07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>10SCIT4 10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4
etc</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Regards Roland<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 13/03/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Laurie
Savage</B> <<A
href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Roland:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Can I
suggest you apply even more detail in the subject naming and set up a
reporting period discriminator as the last 1 or 2 characters in your
courses' i.d.s. If you are using Markbook it will be much easier to select
and lock down reporting periods if you do that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Here are
a couple of examples</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Course Classes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>================</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>07ENGT1 07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>10SCIT4 10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4 etc</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If you
use a system like this then you can do a search for *T4 in the Open/Close
subjects panel.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Are we
having fun yet?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Cheers,
Laurie</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:vels-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>vels-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:vels-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>vels-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 10 March 2007 10:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Victorian Essential Learning Standards<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [VELS] Quick
Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline<BR><B>Importance:</B>
High<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=e id=q_111483c773636458_1>
<DIV></DIV>Not so sure about timeline, but at this point I am sorting out
the FirstClass database before we start our import of teachers, students and
classes. <BR><BR>I have been encouraging some extra rigor in our student
enrollments, and sorting out all the class codes (you must get these right)
We changed from generic names such as "English", "Maths" and
"sem2ceramics10" to 07eng, 08mat and 10arcer2 .. details are in the manual /
handbook. <BR><BR>Hope to finish it all this week so I can start work on our
interim report template. Thank goodness it is only a single page template
and 500 printouts. At least it sets things up for the mid-year
reports.<BR><BR>Regards Roland <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 10/03/07, <B class=gmail_sendername><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au </A></B><<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au" target=_blank>
kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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there everyone in VELS land,<BR><BR>We are runnning Quick Vic @ our school
(as many are) for the first time this<BR>year and was wondering if anyone
had any timelines to share from previous year/s<BR>with regard to the
practical use of this package (or Markbook) in their school. <BR>What I am
chasing is detail with regard to reasonable deadlines for staff,
for<BR>myself as the Quick Vic administrator etc. A basic word doc. would
do just fine.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Kim<BR><BR>---<BR>Kim Gration<BR>ICT
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