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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=640393423-13032007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The relationship between subjects to classes is
one-to-many, and one-to-many between teachers and classes. You need to be able
to identify classes uniquely. We have at least 10 form groups
per academic year! </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> vels-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:vels-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Victorian Essential Learning Standards<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [VELS] Quick
Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline<BR><B>Importance:</B>
High<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Quick one Laurie .. do you really need the 07A 07B 07C bits
when 07 will do? From what I understand the software sorts out classes /
students by teachers for marking anyway and again into students for reports. I
suspect that Markbook exports course codes .. not class codes (or are these the
same things). <BR><BR>Thanks for the cue about the last digit .. notice that the
software rolls on a digit for semesters etc so I will add that in for semester
length courses.<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Course Classes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>================</FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>07ENGT1 07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>10SCIT4 10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4
etc</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Regards Roland<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 13/03/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Laurie
Savage</B> <<A href="mailto:sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au">sav@pvgc.vic.edu.au</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Roland:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Can I
suggest you apply even more detail in the subject naming and set up a
reporting period discriminator as the last 1 or 2 characters in your courses'
i.d.s. If you are using Markbook it will be much easier to select and lock
down reporting periods if you do that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Here are a
couple of examples</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Course Classes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>================</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>07ENGT1 07AEENGT1, 07BENGT1, 07CENGT1
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>10SCIT4 10ASCIT4, 10BSCIT4 etc</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If you use
a system like this then you can do a search for *T4 in the Open/Close subjects
panel.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Are we
having fun yet?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Cheers,
Laurie</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:vels-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>vels-bounces@edulists.com.au</A> [mailto:<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:vels-bounces@edulists.com.au"
target=_blank>vels-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roland
Gesthuizen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 10 March 2007 10:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Victorian Essential Learning Standards<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [VELS] Quick
Vic/Markbook Reporting Administrative Timeline<BR><B>Importance:</B>
High<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>Not so sure about timeline, but at this point I am sorting out the
FirstClass database before we start our import of teachers, students and
classes. <BR><BR>I have been encouraging some extra rigor in our student
enrollments, and sorting out all the class codes (you must get these right) We
changed from generic names such as "English", "Maths" and "sem2ceramics10" to
07eng, 08mat and 10arcer2 .. details are in the manual / handbook.
<BR><BR>Hope to finish it all this week so I can start work on our interim
report template. Thank goodness it is only a single page template and 500
printouts. At least it sets things up for the mid-year reports.<BR><BR>Regards
Roland <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 10/03/07, <B class=gmail_sendername><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au"
target=_blank>kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au </A></B><<A
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href="mailto:kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au" target=_blank>
kgration@myrtlefordsc.vic.edu.au</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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there everyone in VELS land,<BR><BR>We are runnning Quick Vic @ our school
(as many are) for the first time this<BR>year and was wondering if anyone
had any timelines to share from previous year/s<BR>with regard to the
practical use of this package (or Markbook) in their school. <BR>What I am
chasing is detail with regard to reasonable deadlines for staff,
for<BR>myself as the Quick Vic administrator etc. A basic word doc. would do
just fine.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Kim<BR><BR>---<BR>Kim Gration<BR>ICT
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