Interesting thought about a reporting and assessment workshop at the conference Fiona .. I will raise it with Renee who is working very hard to put the finishing touches to the <a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/conference/2005/">
VITTA conference for 2005</a>. Stephen is right of course, timely to move this discussion to the
<a href="http://www.edulists.com.au/mailman/listinfo/reporting">edulist mailing list reporting@edulists.com.au</a> that Kevork setup.<br>
<br>Say .. here are two <a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/calendar/">VITTA calendar events</a> for next week that are worth checking out before they slip under the mid term radar. Just click on the link for details. :-)<br>
<br><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td align="right"><font size="2">Sun 20 Aug 2006</font></td>
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<td align="left"><font size="2"><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/calendar/?day=20&month=08&year=2006&event=357" title="IT Student Conference: Exam Lectures">IT Student Conference: Exam Lectures</a></font></td>
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<td align="right"><font size="2">Mon 21 Aug 2006</font></td>
<td align="right"><font size="2"><img src="http://www.vitta.org.au/pix/V12.png" title="VITTA" height="12" width="12"></font></td>
<td align="left"><font size="2"><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/calendar/?day=21&month=08&year=2006&event=332" title="New Thinking, New Technologies: Enhancing Student Engagement">New Thinking, New Technologies: Enhancing Student Engagement
</a></font></td></tr></tbody></table><br>Regards Roland<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/08/06, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:fiona@balmoralhs.vic.edu.au">fiona@balmoralhs.vic.edu.au</a></b> <<a href="mailto:fiona@balmoralhs.vic.edu.au">
fiona@balmoralhs.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Markbook have sent out all the instructions for the XML updates to enable the state schools to send their results to the Dept. We still haven't tried it but will have to do so this week.
<br><br>I know this might come a bit late and it probably doesn't apply to the VITTA conference but given that so many of us are Markbook co-ordinators as well as IT teachers would it be feasible for a training session at the conference or, at least a discussion session.
<br><br>And yes, Roland if you decide to do something like this I would be happy to help.<br><br>Fiona<br>"Hock Khaw" <<a href="mailto:hkhaw@sjcm.melb.catholic.edu.au">hkhaw@sjcm.melb.catholic.edu.au</a>> on Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:48:09 +1000 wrote:
<br>> Hi Bill,<br>> I am only responding to the statement from Michael about csv/txt files.<br>> We are not onto XML files...not yet as it has only been partially<br>> installed on Maze by Acacia. I think the vendors, both Markbook and Maze
<br>> are working towards the export and import of the XML files. To tell you<br>> the truth, I have not ventured down the path yet nor think about what<br>> has to be done...one small step at a time. I don't know where CASES21
<br>> are with regards to XML file import/export process as I work in a<br>> Catholic school. We have started to report English and Maths in the VELS<br>> format and I, personally think that Markbook has been great in doing
<br>> that. Tech support from Markbook is prompt and they are very helpful.<br>><br>> Hock<br>><br>> ________________________________<br>><br>> From: <a href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au
</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>> On Behalf Of Bill Turner<br>> Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2006 10:05 AM<br>> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'
<br>> Mailing List<br>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OTT - VELS Reporting Software<br>><br>><br>> Hi Hock<br>><br>> My understanding from Markbook is that exports of student details need<br>> to be done directly from CASES via an XML file, which is then imported
<br>> into Markbook.<br>><br>> This is needed for student enrolment file fields that the old CSV file<br>> transfer method doesn't supply but are required for the new system in<br>> reporting back to the Ministry.
<br>><br>> Bill<br>><br>> -------Original Message-------<br>><br>> From: Hock Khaw <mailto:<a href="mailto:hkhaw@sjcm.melb.catholic.edu.au">hkhaw@sjcm.melb.catholic.edu.au</a>><br>> Date: 08/10/06 09:57:44
<br>> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'<br>> Mailing List <mailto:<a href="mailto:ipm@edulists.com.au">ipm@edulists.com.au</a>><br>> Subject: RE: [Year 12 IPM] OTT - VELS Reporting Software
<br>><br>> Hi Michael,<br>> The import and export facilty in Markbook is excellent. It imports CSV<br>> files in a very systematic manner. I have used Markbook since 2000 in<br>> conjunction with Maze (similar to Cases21 - supplied by CAZ) which was
<br>> used as the timetabler package previously. We have now moved to The<br>> Timetabler which can export the relevant Markbook files in the CSV<br>> format. Is CASES21 used for timetabling? If your timetable package can
<br>> export the required fields easily and stored as a CSV file, you can<br>> easily import them into Markbook.<br>><br>> I will be happy to give further advice if you wish as I have been a<br>> Markbook Administrator since its inception in our College as well as a
<br>> timetabler for three years before handing the job back to a teaching<br>> staff.<br>><br>> Hock Khaw<br>> Computer Systems Manager MACS PCP MCP<br>> St Joseph's College Melbourne<br>> Mobile: 0419 342 362
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ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>">mailto:<a href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>"<br>> ><a href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:
<a href="mailto:ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au">ipm-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<br>> On Behalf Of Michael Warden<br>> Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2006 9:05 AM<br>> To: Year 12 Information Technology Processing and Management Teachers'
<br>> Mailing List<br>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 IPM] OTT - VELS Reporting Software<br>><br>> Hi Laurie,<br>><br>> You might be right about the cost but it took 10 hours of solid work to<br>> create the working model based on our school's needs (including deriving
<br>> the algorithm as per department guidelines) - I wanted a challenge!<br>> Funny thing is - our school has yet to decide whether to go FM Pro or<br>> Markbook but I suppose they still need to see a working model anyway.
<br>><br>> Can I ask - since we do not have Markbook - How well does it integrate<br>> with<br>> Cases21 and other programs - Do you have to export and then import data<br>> via a txt/csv file and vice versa OR can Markbook directly access data
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