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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also we did not charge fro stuff out of
our cache - so we encouraged teachers to visit sites first so it was cached
for the students<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We did charge for stuff out of the upline
cache because it came in over our link but our provider charged less for stuff
out of their cache which contributed to the lower cost<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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tech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:tech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Stephen Digby<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 4 September 2006
5:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Technical
Discussion in Schools Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Technical] Printing
management software-policies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>Charge 10c Mb download. $6 combined notional printing and
internet credit per semester. After this students pay $5 lots to top up
their account. All intranet access is free. Teachers are encouraged
o download material rather than send students "out to get it" all the
time. About 20% of students pay extra. Probably drop the charge as
Mb costs decrease and MB download increases with VicSmart....... </span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>How extra downloads make us "Smart" is anyone's guess
?? Didn't seem to work for more TV hours.... </span></font><span
lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>======================================================================================<br>
Stephen Digby, Learning Technology Manager <br>
<a href="mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au">mailto:admin@cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a>
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<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Cheltenham</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Secondary</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
<a href="http://www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au/">www.cheltsec.vic.edu.au</a> Ph: 613
955 55 955 Fx: 9555 8617<br>
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Children begin by loving their parents; as they grow older they judge them;
sometimes they forgive them. ~Oscar Wilde<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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tech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:tech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mansfield, Shane<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 04 September 2006 01:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Technical
Discussion in Schools Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Technical] Printing
management software-policies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Hi Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Thanks for the feedback, am curious as to how you charged the
students for Internet usage – do these software packages measure
downloads? How much do you charge? Do you invoice he students? Block them from
using the internet if they haven’t paid?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Shane<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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tech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:tech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Shortell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 4 September 2006
12:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Technical
Discussion in Schools Mailing List</st1:PersonName>; ipm@edulists.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Technical] Printing
management software-policies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Shane<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have
used Gaia and papercut for both printing and internet charging.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Both
were fine for printing, both add print value by using vouchers purchased from
business manager/ bursar and printed out by IT staff<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Papercut
was superior for internet charging as it updated every 10 minutes, The older
version of GAIA only updated once per day, I do not have recent experience with
the latest version of GAIA and internet charging.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just be
careful of the share where the data is held as the encryption key for gaia is,
by default, stored in the data folder…… as students here found out!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Andrew
Shortell</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on"><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Braemar</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">College</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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tech-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:tech-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mansfield, Shane<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 4 September 2006
11:45 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ipm@edulists.com.au;
tech@edulists.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Technical
Discussion in Schools Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Technical] Printing
management software-policies</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I would appreciate some
feedback on what other schools are using to manage there printing costs with
students – Software and or policies. How effective is it and how do you
manage student payment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Shane Mansfield<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>IT Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
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w:st="on">School</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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