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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Hate to start with negative stuff, there are many pitfalls with 3D printers and using them with students.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I am long time technology teacher and constantly battling with issues of using safe stuff with students. </div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">There is chance that there will be always one parent who will raise the issue about the fumes and dust especially using ABS ( there are concerns raised on the Internet about the safety issues with 3D printers, don't just go with
MDS SHEETS on ABS).</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I am led to believe gluing with PLA is even a more nasty issue and ABS is not so brittle and has a bit more give.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Down to what you need and what you possibly should look for. I am no expert, rather spent a lot of time looking for suitable 3D printers. Depends on what you want to make and how well you can control those enthusiastic fingers.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">From what I understand the da Vinci printers are a bit allergic to enthusiastic fingers and have a lot of problems with down time.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">If you are making serious engineering products you might want to consider:</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Printers that have an easy and reliable source of filament in Australia (if it is in a cartridge for that a particular model and if the printer goes out of production, as they are doing, you are stuck with a printer that is difficult
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">You need at least 100micron resolution for quality work.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Don't rely on running it on a network while printing (especially long prints, you know how reliable school networks are) it is a real pain when you do a 4Hr print and you only have a few minutes left, and the network drops out.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Size of print area dictates the size of your end product.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">From what I have read and seen the UP BOX seems ideal but costs about $3200. I have had no working experience with them.
<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Until I see the UP BOX working I am leaning towards them.</span></div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Had some experience with a Cube 3 great quality work worked really well, good price $1600, got excited, went looking for them, found out information from suppliers and the Internet that they are more than likely to be discontinued
soon if not already and the filament cartridges are only peculiar to that make and model.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I have had information from an engineer who works in a large company using the ultimaker , they have a lot of down time with them and they may not be suitable for students enthusiasm. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Don't know it this is any assistance, good luck.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Cheers George</div>
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On 22 Feb 2016, at 10:20 AM, Powter, Aaron D <<a href="mailto:powter.aaron.d@edumail.vic.gov.au">powter.aaron.d@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Kenneth,</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">We are currently using two UP3D printers which we purchased through Tony P from Intellecta. They've worked well with little to none issues.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I am currently looking at purchasing an additional printer and this would be an Ultimaker 3D printer.</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Don't quote me on this, but I heard a rumour that the DET may soon require extraction or filters for 3D printers soon to minimise ABS and other plastic fumes.</div>
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On 22 Feb 2016, at 10:09 AM, Bell, Kenneth C <<a href="mailto:bell.kenneth.c@edumail.vic.gov.au">bell.kenneth.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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