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Good idea Andrew. A couple on the list here are on the committee planning the event out. Love to have your input so I will put you in touch and others who contacted me directly :-)
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<div class="">Fair point, tertiary sector could only been only a trickle feed with suitable M.Teach graduates putting their name forward as a method subject. It’s been a horrid decade and still sad to see the decline and reported woe for computing teachers
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<div class="">I don't think we are nailing what the problem is here. Yes absolutely more skilled / trained IT teachers would be great - but the reality is that this is not happening. </div>
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<div class="">Instead - we need to address what we are faced with. Roland - I'm happy to convene a panel at the conference on this?</div>
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<div class="">An increasing majority of teachers of Physics and Applied Computing schools are now teaching “out-of-field" and whilst they do a remarkable job, their situation is not going to improve.</div>
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<div class="">Like others, I suspect the dismantling and diminishing of teaching digitech across the middle school years has also been unhelpful. Nothing good ever comes from diminishing or removing teacher agency. It’s hard to beat a skilled method teacher
like you to to command good practice as you have done here with your red pen to underline what teachers should be able to do in order to teach our subject well. I salute your experience.</div>
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<div class="">There is a prof at Monash Uni who is doing some interesting research in this space and noted some interesting findings. Could be a good keynote or guest speaker at the DLTV VCE conference later this year. (Hmmmm, I might pass this onto Kev)</div>
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<div class="">When we (YOU) look at up-skilling teachers… </div>
<div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""></span>•first they need to learn to code </div>
<div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""></span>•THEN they need to learn to teach coding </div>
<div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""></span>•AND they need to learn how to debug students’ code</div>
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<div class="">each of those is VERY important</div>
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<div class="">I used to teach ( "facilitate learning experiences in a student centred harmonious learning environment” ) </div>
<div class="">and I am happy to share some of the tasks I used to build student skills</div>
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<div class="">Most of my ideas centred around : build a core and add to it and then add functionality and then reflect on the interface and the modules</div>
<div class="">Most of my things revolved around middle out planning.</div>
<div class="">Students SEEMED to follow the logic of honing in on core functionality and then planning and creating the bits necessary to achieve those functional requirements </div>
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<div class="">Real programmers plan everything before they even write an algorithm - students need to learn what programming is before they can program</div>
<div class="">It has always been my mantra that people (students) learn best by doing, reflecting (HA HA) and then applying forward.</div>
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<div class="">If a large think tank is convened I am happy to contribute before dementia sets in</div>
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<div class="">I 100% support Vic's suggestion here. </div>
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<div class="">Reflecting on the current state of teacher employment, we recently advertised and receive 0 applicants. ZERO. I think academia is doing the best it can, but we need to think about this problem a different way. (I'm tempted to quote Einstein here,
but you all know the quote!!). Looking forward, a BETTER solution would be to look to the teachers we have and work upskilling them to deliver our APC courses. </div>
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<div class="">Phil - perhaps you could convene a think tank around this?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I would be keen to run some teacher training courses to upskill staff to teach Software. I am doing this at Parade College while I support their VCE class one day a week.
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