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It seems my student testimonial did not come through as it was a screen shot.</div>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important">Here is a testimonial again from one of our former students </span><span style="font-family:Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important">(
RTTF is our previous name as Ringwood Trade Training Facility now known as Ringwood Training ) :</span></div>
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<p style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;margin:0px">I'm not sure if you remember me but I did my CCNA at Rttf 2015-2016 and then CCNA Security with you in 2017. </p>
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<p style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;margin:0px">I thought I would just let you know how well doing this study has benefited my career path. </p>
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<p style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;margin:0px">In early 2018 I started work at Vocus Communications as a Unified Comms Engineer. This was providing support to our wholesale VoIP resellers through our brands IPTel , Engin and VHV.</p>
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<p style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;margin:0px"> After doing this role for 1.5 years I have since recently been presented with a new role within the same company as a voice Operation Command Center Engineer ( aka NOC voice Engineer )</p>
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<p style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;margin:0px">The skills , certifications and knowledge I gained from RTTF have enabled me to attain a truly amazing career path I never thought I could have achieved at my current age. It was probably
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<p style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;margin:0px">I am now working for an amazing company learning so much and delveloping my skills even further. I am also financially free and looking to purchase my first house.</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Kevork Krozian <kkrozian@rt.vic.edu.au><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 18 November 2021 4:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Drop in IT Applied Computing numbers</font>
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Hi Vic</div>
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I know you have had amazing success with your eCommerce offerings at year 10 over the years and that is a credit to you. </div>
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I expect this has fed into VCE Applied Computing. Thank you for sharing all your insights and content.</div>
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It does seem to me that we may be conflating several aims in our quest to make IT, DigiTech, Cybersecurity .... cool, attractive and desirable.</div>
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6. use it as a taster for potential VCE subject selection ?</div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">Does a Yr 10, 11, 12 student make a subject choice based on these criteria ?</span><br>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">Why don't we ask them ?</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">As an aside, HESS Algorithmics is not for the faint of heart. There are not many more than around 100 students statewide who venture into this study per year. The
content is from any one or more of 1st, 2nd and 3rd year Algorithmics course content at university level. It is the only IT study that is scaled up - significantly - for good reason.</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">The concentration of the majority of students nowadays is via Distance Education as not too many schools can sustain sufficient numbers to run it each year. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">It is my view that Monash and Melbourne Universities designed the course to recruit students for tertiary pathways into Algorithmics/Comp Sci at their respective
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Therefore, it is not for the mainstream.</div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">I have seen students go onto University and after completing a degree in IT start employment as a Level 1 helpdesk employee.</span><br>
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Why not cut out the "middle man" and just go for that job after Yr 12.</div>
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We need to keep in mind that no matter how much and what type of IT students study the end goal is to secure employment. </div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"> As can be seen he was ready to purchase his first house at age 21. </span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">Not everyone will do CCNA Routing and Switching and CCNA Security , however we need to decide what our selling point is when we seek to bring students into IT courses.</span><br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 18 November 2021 12:21 PM<br>
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<div>We stopped running Data Analytics in 2017 due to a lack of student interest. Now our Software Dev classes are dwindling - kept afloat only by allowing top Year 11s access to the 3/4 subject. A lot of negative feedback from Software Development students
identifies the limited amount of actual coding in relation to the amount of project management required. The addition of the Development Model has teachers and students scratching their heads given the limited time frame we have for the SAT. I'm hoping to
get the HESS subject up and running in 2023. We have found surveying our best coding students, that Algorithmics is the kind of subject they want to do. Despite trying to 'sex-up' Data Analytics with an eCommerce context (eCommerce has become a very popular
Year 10 subject) most are not interested in doing Data Analytics in 3/4 and we can not fill a class.</div>
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<div>I would love to hear from schools who have a strong Data Analytics course each year and how they retain students in that subject.</div>
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I thought the story below might be of interest to our SofDev subscribers.</div>
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Happy to discuss these options and pathways further for anyone interested.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 17 November 2021 5:45 PM<br>
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Shrinking VCE Applied Computing numbers is a sad reality for most schools.</div>
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Compare that with our mid 1990s heyday when VCE Processing and Management was the third highest enrolment of any VCE study ( happy to be corrected if I am not 100% correct here ).</div>
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Much effort has been expended in the last decade trying to revive our studies but sadly we haven't found a cure yet.</div>
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At VCE Unit 3-4 we offer Data Analytics, Software Development, HESS Algorithmics, VET IT Certificate II, VET IT Certificate III , VET Cisco. </div>
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VET Cisco counts as <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)"><b>two </b></span>Unit 3-4 credits ( one per year ) and Algorithmics can fast track students in tertiary IT and Computer Science courses.
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">Quite the feast for the IT lover, spoilt for choice, yet we are undoubtedly shrinking overall. </span><br>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline">I have taught five out of six and been an examiner on the sixth. Very rewarding.</span><br>
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Is there any other field that offers six options at VCE Units 3-4 or VCAL ?</div>
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At Ringwood Training we have managed to help students who would otherwise miss out in their home school through the provision of three VET in Schools courses:</div>
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1. VET Certificate III in IT ( Networking and Cybersecurity ) - can be a scored or a non-scored study</div>
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2. <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline">VET Certificate III in IT ( Multimedia and Gaming) <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline">- can be a scored or a non-scored study</span></span></div>
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3. VET Cisco CCNA ( Cisco Certified Network Associate ) <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline">- only non-scored with a 10% ATAR bonus contribution per year of Cisco.</span></div>
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We tend to have up to 120 students from almost 50 schools in these courses across two year levels of VCE/VET/VCAL. </div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">Without this aggregation I don't know that any one school would find these courses viable sad to say.</span><br>
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Students continue beyond Yr 12 to post school pathways (see attached ) which we often combine with employment usually on a part time basis with our industry contacts. </div>
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I haven't solved your local problems Litsa and Xin, however if the alternative is these students miss out totally,</div>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">getting them to a different location will be the smaller of two evils.</span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 17 November 2021 5:19 PM<br>
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<div style="">G’day Litsa, i am curious if any institutions are running a distance education version of VET IT. Just curious.
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<div>Kevork does this with a team at Ringwood SC. I have met some of his students and they do some great work.
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<div>For others following this thread, check out in the other email that I shared what we do at VSV to support teaching AC, DA and SD for VCE students. <br>
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<div>Regards Roland<br>
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<div>On 17 Nov 2021, at 2:15 pm, Litsa Tzelepis <<a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(53,28,117)">Oh wow - we have had this in the past but cancelled the VET IT course - although I think it may suit some of our students who may not wanted to take on the VCE courses.</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(53,28,117)">We have a class of 4 and 7 next year (11 & 12 respectively).</div>
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<div style="color:rgb(53,28,117)">Thank-you for your reply,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 2:01 PM Chen, Xin <<a href="mailto:xchen@mazenod.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">xchen@mazenod.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<span style="font-size:12pt">Yes, this is happening. My school is even worse—Applied Computing is replaced by VET IT from Y10 to Y12 now. Such a shame!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 13:08:38 +1100<br>
From: Litsa Tzelepis <<a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a>><br>
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Hello <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">🌻</span><br>
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I'm just wondering if schools are seeing a drop in Applied Computing and<br>
Data Analytics numbers for 2022?<br>
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We still have 1 class per year level, but they are slightly smaller than<br>
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Just checking - thank-you,<br>
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From: Roland Gesthuizen <<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Informatics] Class sizes 2022<br>
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Final enrolment numbers in AC, DA or SD can vary widely from school to school across different years. It’s complex for a range of reasons. Many years ago I discovered that it mattered how computing was promoted in our school (7-10), how it was perceived by
parents even in the junior year levels (events like Grok challenges or computing clubs) and even, what it was blocked against in the VCE timetable.
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> On 17 Nov 2021, at 1:08 pm, Litsa Tzelepis <<a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I'm just wondering if schools are seeing a drop in Applied Computing and Data Analytics numbers for 2022?<br>
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> We still have 1 class per year level, but they are slightly smaller than this year.<br>
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> Just checking - thank-you,<br>
> I hope all is well <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">🍄</span><br>
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