<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi All<div class="">Just to follow on from some of the <b class="">GREAT</b> stuff here</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I ask my students to ensure their SAT can</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Add, Edit, Delete, Save, Load, Sort, Search </b>— the 7 absolute requirements. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> We will use a drop in quick sort - i.e. the quick-sort we went over as a group and we all know works (developed in class but relying on other sources as well</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Then I use that as a filter on their ideas - can they justify their chosen topic to fit these minimum requirements?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mine are still in analysis and SRS and GAntt stage - but some are ready to start their DFDs, Use Case, Screen Designs, screen design criteria, usability (<a href="http://usability.gov" class="">usability.gov</a>), reading level, audience description, and (maybe soon) pseudo-code, data dictionaries, testing tables, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Luckily I had done a fair bit of theory in term 1 so we have been SAT focussed this term.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The thing I have not covered is <xml> files and reading them into a program. </div><div class="">I understand what to do intellectually but am struggling with collections of instances of a class that will be a collection of records (as in database). Stuff online tends to just interact with a database but None of my students have done Informatics/data analysis so I dont want to burden them with learning database as well</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maybe someone can point me to a good resource for that? Please?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Andrew</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Sunbury College for 2020</div><div class="">SofDev, VET CDM & unit 1,2 Computing</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 28 Apr 2020, at 11:54 am, McCleary Scott <<a href="mailto:McCS@jpc.vic.edu.au" class="">McCS@jpc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks to everyone who has posted or emailed. I really appreciate the ideas and support. It’s all helpful. Hard enough doing the subject for the first time, a little harder by distance when you don’t feel you’re giving your students what they need.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Cheers everyone,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Scott<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>sofdev <<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>McCleary Scott<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, 28 April 2020 10:30 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>' <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Year 12 SofDev] Students struggling with SAT ideas<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi everyone,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I have a few students that seem to have stalled in coming up with ideas for their SAT (yes, it’s getting a bit late, they’re lucky VCAA pushed dates back).<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I was curious as to what topics or ideas some of your students had. I was hoping to compile a bit of a list that I could use with them to give them a push along. My brain also is limited as it’s my first year teaching SD. Give me Informatics (Data Analytics) which I have done for several years and I would have no problem.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Any ideas that I could use to help push my students along would be great.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks for helping the newb SD teacher.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">P.S. 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