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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Adrian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You know I love you to death but I have to draw the line here.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not for the first time I have had a number of niggles recently with very experienced teachers and friends who have left me scratching my head.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">For example:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1 . As you well know Edulists runs now totally from my own time and funds. This has been the case since 2017. All previous financial support has been withdrawn by organisations.
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<p class="MsoNormal"> 2. Edulists subscribers who were once supporters of funding of Edulists have quite blatantly advertised their products without permission.
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<p class="MsoNormal"> 3. These individuals have openly advertised an alternative platform and repeated the marketing of that on Edulists. Compare this with me walking into Kmart and shouting about the merits of BigW and it would be great if everyone went across
to the other location for all their needs. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Sure Edulists is showing its age and part of the reason for keeping it as it is, partly is due to keeping the archives to allow for continuity.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please understand I would wish for nothing more than every endeavor to succeed including publishing of texts, establishing of communities and helping fellow teachers.
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<p class="MsoNormal">However it is not the technology but the people that will keep a community alive and vibrant.
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<p class="MsoNormal">However I have to quote David Marr when I see the recent happenings cause violence to common sense, reason and respect.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I sign off more than a little disappointed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will take Vic’s advice and have a great weekend.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">NB Check the signature, we are going in tonight as one of three Victorian finalists in the small RTO of year awards . Wish us luck !!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Keep well<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">IT Pathways Manager<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> sofdev <sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Adrian Janson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 6, 2019 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Campion: Text Book Orders<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Vic's SD class!!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BTW - while I'm on Edulists, I'll give a plug for the Slack community:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is the link: <a href="https://join.slack.com/t/vicdigitech/shared_invite/enQtNjY0NTgxMjAxMTQyLWJlM2IyMzNhODhjNzY1YzFlOWMwYTI3YjEzMDNlYTU4ODQwYmFjNTFkY2Y2NWI5NjA4NjkxODE0NDBhMzgzNmM">https://join.slack.com/t/vicdigitech/shared_invite/enQtNjY0NTgxMjAxMTQyLWJlM2IyMzNhODhjNzY1YzFlOWMwYTI3YjEzMDNlYTU4ODQwYmFjNTFkY2Y2NWI5NjA4NjkxODE0NDBhMzgzNmM</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Come and join us and let's build up this community!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 2:24 PM Victoria Farrell <<a href="mailto:farrellv@stkevins.vic.edu.au">farrellv@stkevins.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Love to!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My Year 12 class says "hi" by the way.<br clear="all">
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<p><b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Victoria Farrell</span></i></b><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Software-Development-Applied-Computing-Design-ebook/dp/B07WJRHPCF/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1565860890&refinements=p_27%3AVictoria+Farrell&s=digital-text&sr=1-1&text=Victoria+Farrell" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial Narrow",sans-serif">Software
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just a thought - and yes, I realise that thoughts are not the same as actually doing some of these things, but let me throw this out there...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How about if on the assessment front, we collaborated on assessment tasks and theory activities (drawing on both of our texts) - as an SD resource kit? We could put them behind a pay-wall of some kind - and teachers could subscribe (I guess
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:04 AM Victoria Farrell <<a href="mailto:farrellv@stkevins.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">farrellv@stkevins.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Campion is running me around in circles as I try to add the text book to their distribution lists.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you wish to order my 2020 Software Development Text Book you can pre-order on
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hopefully it will be available on Campion today - but don't hold your breath. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This textbook is designed to assist novice teachers - it has a detailed chapter on each of the Outcomes, a Chapter on the Visual Basic techniques to meet the VCAA programming requirements and a chapter with templates for each SAC and SAT
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have a great weekend!<o:p></o:p></p>
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