<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi All<div class="">I rarely post nowadays</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I still think edulists works well - witness this discussion</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">for sof dev — look at Strathmore - Selina Denis - one of the really really good teachers of sof dev and few if any females in her classes</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For other schools - it is ages since, as a teacher of sof dev I have had women (girls) in my classes</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">in IDM I also struggled to attract girls to the subject</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have had a lot of “skin in the game” - been marking the exam in Sof dev since 1991 </div><div class="">Yes that is 28 years —> yes you can go Oh wow but I am not the only one ( looking at you Claudia)</div><div class="">This subject started in 1991</div><div class="">I have also done IPM, IDM and maths marking</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes I have written text books (I am not the only one), practice exams (as have others), the real VCAA exam ( as have others)</div><div class="">I have been involved in Algorithmics</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So why are we losing students —> is it just the fault of career advisors? or is it just the fault of Unis not asking for pre-requisites?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">have we lost relevance ? yet Data Analytics is SO IMPORTANT</div><div class="">e.g. the latest election polls — or other things</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">so who are our pre-eminent sales people? why are they not succeeding? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">what to do? ???</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t offer my ideas because they have not been wonderfully successful - instead I ask those people with bigger classes to share where it has worked</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(Yes i love the idea of year 10 commerce - computing in disguise) ( and the year 9/10 event management subject - project management on a big scale)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">so PLEASE if you have bigger classes ———> WHY ?????</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Andrew</div><div class="">At Lalor SC this year</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 May 2019, at 5:21 pm, Roland Gesthuizen <<a href="mailto:rgesthuizen@gmail.com" class="">rgesthuizen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I kind of agree with Kevork, we have 5 surviving and evolving choices .. If we hadn’t changed every now and then, we would certainly have been run over. I salute all the past labours to get to where we are now. </div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="">My idle fingers just had a peek at QLD for year 11 for inspiration<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">• <a href="https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/senior-subjects/technologies/digital-solutions" class="">Digital Solutions (2019)<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span></a></div><div class="">• <a href="https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/senior-subjects/technologies/information-communication-technology-skills" class="">Information & Communication Technology Skills (2019)</a></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and then year 12 .. <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>• <a href="https://www.qcaa.qld.edu.au/senior/subjects/ict-design" class="">ICT & Design</a> … and something interesting happened, check it out yourself. Any thoughts?</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am going to the QSITE Conference in a couple of weeks to talk about my Robotics work. Peeking over the <a href="https://jason.zagami.info/theora-research/educational-technologies/australian-trends" class="">horizon .. hint hint</a></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 12px;" class="">--</span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><b class="">Roland GESTHUIZEN<br class=""></b><a href="http://about.me/rgesthuizen" class="">http://about.me/rgesthuizen</a><br class=""></div></div></div>
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 23 May 2019, at 3:22 pm, Kevork Krozian <<a href="mailto:kkrozian@rt.vic.edu.au" class="">kkrozian@rt.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Hi Folks</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""> In the first phase of the VCE ( 1990 ? ) which from memory coincided with the new Information Technology study, we had three streams:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><ol style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;" class=""><li class="">Information Technology Systems ( before it became IT Software Development )</li><li class="">Information Technology Applications ( I think, before it became IPM, then Informatics ... )</li><li class="">Information Technology <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">in Society ( which passed away fairly soon after it was released with few takers )</span><br class=""></li></ol><div class=""><br class=""></div> But during this time we have also had:<div class=""><ol style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;" class=""><li class="">VET ICT30115 Certificate III in Information, Digital Media and Technology </li><li class="">VET Cisco Networking ( Routing, Switching, LANs, WANs, protocols, security )</li><li class="">HESS Algorithmics ( see <a href="https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/algorithmics/AlgorithmicsSD-2017.pdf" class="OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk308096" previewremoved="true">https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/algorithmics/AlgorithmicsSD-2017.pdf</a> )</li></ol><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;" class="">I know that other vendors like Microsoft, 3Com, RedHat have tried over the years to introduce their industry courses into the VCE . </div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;" class="">What better way to get your product immersed into society than by getting children to use it in schools ?</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Overall, we have been blessed in the VCE space with 5 surviving and currently evolving choices. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However, I do accept Informatics has become less and less relevant, a bit like the Office Applications that began life as IT but soon slipped into business studies or office administration courses over time. Then again, it is possible to do very complex tasks with Word macros and Excel functions. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Speak soon</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kevork </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; width: 675.21875px;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>informatics <<a href="mailto:informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au" class="">informatics-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>> on behalf of Mark <<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" class="">mark@vceit.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 23 May 2019 2:26:33 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List; Year 12 VCE Informatics Teachers' Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Informatics] [Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment numbers</font><div class=""> </div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I cynically suspect that the Informatics course was trying to exploit students' interest in soft sciences like psych and sociology and communication-rich exercises (the MMOS) - maybe to lure oestrogen-enabled punters.<br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Didn't work. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kids who wanted IT expected to get IT. </div><div class="">Informatics gave them hypotheses, stats, and just enough IT to make these happen.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kids who want soft science and communications do psych/sociology/drama. </div><div class="">Informatics gave them 2NF, The Privacy Act 1988 and user flow diagrams.</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Informatics didn't really deliver anything much to anyone.</div><div class="">As I've said before, I believe IPM/ITA/Informatics is still riding through the desert on a horse with no name looking for an identity.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just my 2.2 cents. Spend it wisely.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">😲<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 12:11, Lisa Kerekes <<a href="mailto:Lisa.Kerekes@donvale.vic.edu.au" class="">Lisa.Kerekes@donvale.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">The numbers seem to reflect young people’s desire to learn about themselves and the world, to help others, and make a difference.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Q: How can Computing show its relevance (and perhaps applications for tech to solve problems) in these areas?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Just what went through my mind.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Lisa K<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">> On 23 May 2019, at 10:11 am, Rattan, Kushum L <<a href="mailto:rattan.kushum.l@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank" class="">rattan.kushum.l@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Another growing subject at my school is Sociology where they look at all the current issues facing societies such as refugees, terrorism, migration, ageing etc and the kids love it.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Kushum Rattan<br class="">> ICT Curriculum Area Leader<br class="">> VET Co-ordinator<br class="">> Gisborne Secondary College<br class="">> Phone: 03 54283691<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rattan.kushum.l@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank" class="">rattan.kushum.l@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> -----Original Message-----<br class="">> From: sofdev <<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>> On Behalf Of Stephen Trouse<br class="">> Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2019 8:03 AM<br class="">> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrolment numbers<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> As I suspected. Psych numbers burgeoning! The future is therapy!<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> -----Original Message-----<br class="">> From: sofdev <<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>> On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-request@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-request@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">> Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 4:15 PM<br class="">> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">> Subject: sofdev Digest, Vol 168, Issue 49<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Send sofdev mailing list submissions to<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fedulists.com.au%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fsofdev&data=02%7C01%7CLisa.Kerekes%40donvale.vic.edu.au%7C0a8aba9ce6d74cb224ad08d6df132e5b%7C45b3b0c1309b448dbb973987f1e43494%7C0%7C0%7C636941670824069900&sdata=eFav0kGJ0aSrsuUyVOrUgwIhweYZN4i60%2F5qP68pIUw%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fedulists.com.au%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fsofdev&data=02%7C01%7CLisa.Kerekes%40donvale.vic.edu.au%7C0a8aba9ce6d74cb224ad08d6df132e5b%7C45b3b0c1309b448dbb973987f1e43494%7C0%7C0%7C636941670824069900&sdata=eFav0kGJ0aSrsuUyVOrUgwIhweYZN4i60%2F5qP68pIUw%3D&reserved=0</a><br class="">> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-request@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-request@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> You can reach the person managing the list at<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-owner@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-owner@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of sofdev digest..."<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Today's Topics:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> 1. Re: Enrollment Numbers (Mark)<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Message: 1<br class="">> Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 16:20:10 +1000<br class="">> From: Mark <<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@vceit.com</a>><br class="">> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"<br class="">> <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class="">> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers<br class="">> Message-ID:<br class="">> <CACu=<a href="mailto:8Z0vU7F3wwbLQR5mEom8QzqcR5e4KnEpcJiFwS87xgJXfw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">8Z0vU7F3wwbLQR5mEom8QzqcR5e4KnEpcJiFwS87xgJXfw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br class="">> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> *2001*<br class="">> *Psych U1*<br class="">> Male 2,922<br class="">> Female 10,179<br class="">> Total 13,101<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> *Psych U3*<br class="">> M 2,852<br class="">> F 10,068<br class="">> Total 12,920<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> ---------------------------<br class="">> *2018*<br class="">> *Psych U1*<br class="">> M 5,119<br class="">> F 12,605<br class="">> Total 17,739 (includes 15 intersex students)<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> *Psych U3*<br class="">> M 4,479<br class="">> F 11,435<br class="">> Total 15,927 (includes 13 intersex students)<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> *Boys are picking up psych!*<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 15:14, Stephen Trouse <<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Stephen.Trouse@flinders.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">Stephen.Trouse@flinders.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> I'd like to see the numbers for Psychology as a comparison.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> -----Original Message-----<br class="">>> From: sofdev <<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>> On Behalf Of<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-request@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-request@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">>> Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 2:39 PM<br class="">>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">>> 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href="http://40edumail.vic.gov.au/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">40edumail.vic.gov.au</a>%7Cf36cf452917b4d8201d408d6df01584f%7Cd96cb3<br class="">>> 371a8744cfb69b3cec334a4c1f%7C0%7C0%7C636941594428169757&sdata=jjwV<br class="">>> kkC%2Fje1D2JTj%2B8JhemBGf8doJRow8fJwc6em0MQ%3D&reserved=0<br class="">>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-request@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-request@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br class="">>> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-owner@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-owner@edulists.com.au</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">>> than<br class="">>> "Re: Contents of sofdev digest..."<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Today's Topics:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> 1. Re: Enrollment Numbers (Litsa Tzelepis)<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Message: 1<br class="">>> Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 14:44:10 +1000<br class="">>> From: Litsa Tzelepis <<a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a>><br class="">>> To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List"<br class="">>> <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class="">>> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers<br class="">>> Message-ID:<br class="">>> <<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:CAODCwv9uvQAv8WvYd8meoSerjZUCJOhSYqHdF605p-eUzney_Q@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">CAODCwv9uvQAv8WvYd8meoSerjZUCJOhSYqHdF605p-eUzney_Q@mail.gmail.com</a>><br class="">>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> no no - mark collated the data and chart while I was shuffling papers<br class="">>> - he's the genius -<br class="">>> 😃<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jolly, Michael D <<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Jolly.Michael.D@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank" class="">Jolly.Michael.D@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Wow!<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Oh yeah, and “good job”!<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Mike Jolly from Kyneton<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> *From:* sofdev <<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>> *On Behalf Of *Litsa<br class="">>>> Tzelepis<br class="">>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 May 2019 1:45 PM<br class="">>>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class="">>>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> so.... for the last hour I have been clicking around with a notepad<br class="">>>> and 2B pencil - lol<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> thanks mark - litsa<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 📝<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:31 PM Mark <<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@vceit.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> IT enrolments - the complete sad tale from 2001 to 2018<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> [image: computing enrolments 2001-2018.jpg]<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> You can get the full XLSX in the attachment. Let me know if you have<br class="">>>> issues with it - I created in in LibreOffice.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> (And yes, it includes male and female breakdowns.)<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Enjoy - and try not to weep.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Regards,<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Mark<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 12:37, Litsa Tzelepis<br class="">>>> <<a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a>><br class="">>>> wrote:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Excellent everyone - I really appreciate your help?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Litsa 🌻<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 12:07 PM Scott Wallace <<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Scott.Wallace@beaconhills.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">Scott.Wallace@beaconhills.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Any chance of getting the breakdown between male and female enrolments?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> *Scott Wallace *<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> *Head of House (Rich) *<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> *Head of Campus eLearning and Information Technology*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> *Beaconhills College, Pakenham*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> *(03) 5945-3014*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> *[image: email_Sig]*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> *From:* sofdev <<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>> *On Behalf Of *Mark<br class="">>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:06 PM<br class="">>>> *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank" class="">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br class="">>>> *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Enrollment Numbers<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> hehehe. I followed Geoff's link and was amused to find the<br class="">>>> enrolments in<br class="">>>> *2001*:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> IT 1 - *17,113*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Information Processing and Management U3 - *13,344*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Information Systems U3 (SD) - *3,346*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> And in *2015*...<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> IT1 - *4,959*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> IT Apps - *2,651*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> SD - *1,385*<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> How times change<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 11:48, Mark <<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@vceit.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Earlier I found 2016 and 2017.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> [image: computing 2016-2017.jpg]<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> I just found 2018 here<br class="">>>> <<a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw</a><br class="">>>> ww<br class="">>>> .<a href="http://vcaa.vic.edu.au/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">vcaa.vic.edu.au</a>%2FPages%2Fvce%2Fstatistics%2F2018%2Fstatssect2.aspx<br class="">>>> &d<br class="">>>> ata=02%7C01%7Cjolly.michael.d%<a href="http://40edumail.vic.gov.au/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">40edumail.vic.gov.au</a>%7Cf9db6aec60f44d4<br class="">>>> 74<br class="">>>> ab008d6de6803f8%7Cd96cb3371a8744cfb69b3cec334a4c1f%7C0%7C0%7C6369409<br class="">>>> 35<br class="">>>> 766387479&sdata=Ji5dJaTBVvzUSyGuVQeEpHMmeHmabSoRq7%2BdSoSvrNQ%3D&res<br class="">>>> er<br class="">>>> ved=0><br class="">>>> .<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> [image: computing 2016-2018.jpg]<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Informatics died a long, horrible - yet predictable - death.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> 💀<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 10:28, Litsa Tzelepis<br class="">>>> <<a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a>><br class="">>>> wrote:<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Good morning,<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> is there anywhere that I can access the enrollment numbers for<br class="">>>> Computing<br class="">>>> (11 & 12) over the last few years?<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> We are heading into subject selection confirmation lists over the<br class="">>>> next few days.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> I'd appreciate any direction - not to worry if it doesn't exist -<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Have a great day,<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Litsa 🌼<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> --<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Litsa Tzelepis<br class="">>>> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College<br class="">>>> 133 Maidstone Street, Altona, VIC. 3018<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> P:8398 2000<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> --<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Mark Kelly<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank" class="">mark@vceit.com</a><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvce" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fvce</a><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://it.com/" 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If received in error, please notify the<br class="">>>> sender and Mount St. Joseph Girls' College immediately and delete<br class="">>>> the Email and all<br class="">>> copies. Mount St.<br class="">>>> Joseph Girls' College does not guarantee that this email is virus or<br class="">>>> error free. The attached files are provided and may only be used on<br class="">>>> the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss,<br class="">>>> damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use<br class="">>>> of the attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the<br class="">>>> sender or not. The content and opinions in this Email are not<br class="">>>> necessarily those of Mount St. Joseph Girls' College. Please<br class="">>>> consider the environment<br class="">>> before printing this email.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> IMPORTANT! This email and any attachments may be confidential. If<br class="">>>> received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Mount St<br class="">>> Joseph Girls'<br class="">>>> College does not represent or warrant that the attached files are<br class="">>>> free from computer viruses or other defects. The attached files are<br class="">>>> provided, and may only be used, on the basis that the user assumes<br class="">>>> all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting<br class="">>>> directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether<br class="">>>> caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The liability of<br class="">>>> Mount St Joseph Girls' College is limited in any event to either the<br class="">>>> resupply of the attached files or the cost of having the attached files resupplied.<br class="">>>> Any representations or opinions expressed in this email are those of<br class="">>>> the individual sender, and not necessarily those of Mount St Joseph<br class="">>> Girls' College.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww</a><br class="">>>> .<a href="http://edulists.com.au/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">edulists.com.au</a>&data=02%7C01%7Crattan.kushum.l%40edumail.vic.go<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> 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class="">tter.com</a>%2Fintent%2Ffollow%3Foriginal_referer%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fv<br class="">>>> ce<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://it.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">it.com</a>%252Fwp%252F%26ref_src%3Dtwsrc%255Etfw%26region%3Dfollow_link%<br class="">>>> 26<br class="">>>> screen_name%3Dvceitcom%26tw_p%3Dfollowbutton&data=02%7C01%7Cjolly.mi<br class="">>>> ch<br class="">>>> ael.d%<a href="http://40edumail.vic.gov.au/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">40edumail.vic.gov.au</a>%7Cf9db6aec60f44d474ab008d6de6803f8%7Cd96c<br class="">>>> b3<br class="">>>> 371a8744cfb69b3cec334a4c1f%7C0%7C0%7C636940935766417470&sdata=7s8Dsi<br class="">>>> PR iZfqWsqTNDKRt524jJIo7KAANfBygEcIo%2B8%3D&reserved=0><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Powered by *Mitochondria.*<br 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class="">>>> - FAQ, Subscribe, Unsubscribe<br class="">>>> IT Software Development Mailing List<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> --<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Litsa Tzelepis<br class="">>>> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College<br class="">>>> 133 Maidstone Street, Altona, VIC. 3018<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">htzelepis@msj.vic.edu.au</a><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> P:8398 2000<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> This Email and any attachments may be confidential and, if you are<br class="">>>> not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the<br class="">>>> information in this email. If received in error, please notify the<br class="">>>> sender and Mount St. Joseph Girls' College immediately and delete<br class="">>>> the Email and all<br class="">>> copies. Mount St.<br class="">>>> Joseph Girls' College does not guarantee that this email is virus or<br class="">>>> error free. The attached files are provided and may only be used on<br class="">>>> the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss,<br class="">>>> damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use<br class="">>>> of the attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the<br class="">>>> sender or not. The content and opinions in this Email are not<br class="">>>> necessarily those of Mount St. Joseph Girls' College. Please<br class="">>>> consider the environment<br class="">>> before printing this email.<br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> IMPORTANT! This email and any attachments may be confidential. If<br class="">>>> received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Mount St<br class="">>> Joseph Girls'<br class="">>>> College does not represent or warrant that the attached files are<br class="">>>> free from computer viruses or other defects. The attached files are<br class="">>>> provided, and may only be used, on the basis that the user assumes<br class="">>>> all responsibility for any loss, damage or consequence resulting<br class="">>>> directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files, whether<br class="">>>> caused by the negligence of the sender or not. The liability of<br class="">>>> Mount St Joseph Girls' College is limited in any event to either the<br class="">>>> resupply of the attached files or the cost of having the attached files resupplied.<br class="">>>> Any representations or opinions expressed in this email are those of<br class="">>>> the individual sender, and not necessarily those of Mount St Joseph<br class="">>> Girls' College.<br class="">>>> IMPORTANT - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If<br class="">>>> received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before<br class="">>>> opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects.<br class="">>>> Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the<br class="">>>> negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly<br class="">>>> from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to<br class="">>>> resupplying any affected attachments. 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If received in error, please notify the sender and<br class="">>> Mount St. Joseph Girls' College immediately and delete the Email and all copies. Mount St.<br class="">>> Joseph Girls' College does not guarantee that this email is virus or<br class="">>> error free. The attached files are provided and may only be used on<br class="">>> the basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss,<br class="">>> damage or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of<br class="">>> the attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or<br class="">>> not. The content and opinions in this Email are not necessarily those<br class="">>> of Mount St. Joseph Girls' College. 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