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<div class="PlainText">Thanks Tanya,<br>
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I was referring to the list Mike referred to - his personal one mapping KK's to SACs. Someone else replied saying it was really useful so I presume there was an attachment that some could access.<br>
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From: Simon Dorrat <sdorrat@salesian.vic.edu.au><br>
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Hi Mike,<br>
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I didn't get the attachment - there was a line indicated it had been "scrubbed". I presume this is a security setting. Can anyone enlighten me as to whether this is a mailing list setting or something to be sorted out internally with my IT admin?<br>
<br>
The list sounds very useful, embarking on my first year of SD teaching.<br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 02:40:09 +0000<br>
From: Mike Fitzpatrick <michael.fitzpatrick@carey.com.au><br>
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] New study design - SD:CT&P<br>
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Hi<br>
I prefer by SACs.<br>
I needed to do the attached list to help keep track of KKs and SACs.<br>
Mike<br>
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From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of Adrian Janson<br>
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2019 12:56 PM<br>
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] New study design - SD:CT&P<br>
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Hi Michael,<br>
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I could? What I usually start by doing is organising the KK points into chapters, but I can see if they can organised better by SAC? Perhaps I could do a draft chapter list for each and post it up here for comment?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Adrian<br>
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On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:47 PM Cooper, Michael J <cooper.michael.j@edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:cooper.michael.j@edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:<br>
HI Adrian,<br>
<br>
I’d prefer to keep the text to the study design only. I figure the kids have so much to learn anyway!<br>
<br>
Also have you considered splitting the content up by outcome (U3O1, U3O2, U4O1, U4O2) rather than chapters you have now?<br>
<br>
Thanks for all your work with the text. Keeping the subject alive!<br>
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From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au>> On Behalf Of Adrian Janson<br>
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2019 12:12 PM<br>
To: Edulists - Year 12 Software Development <sofdev@edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au>><br>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] New study design - SD:CT&P<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
Hope the year has started well for you!<br>
<br>
With the new study design being posted yesterday, I will be beginning to work on the new edition of Software Development: Core Techniques and Principles for the new course.<br>
<br>
I would like to ask some questions of you however (as part of the Analysis phase!). I don't mind if you want to reply here or off-list.<br>
<br>
One of the things I have been careful about with the text, is representing the entire course (and not much else). In writing it, I map all of the KK points to the chapters and then write the content - ensuring that I don't step outside the bounds of the Study
Design (or at least - not too far). I also ensure that the PSM and the glossary points are all included and discussed at appropriate points. Some KK points are very succinct while others are quite open - and we rely on the community / VCAA to help define the
boundaries. In the past, I have clarified points with VCAA so that I can represent these boundaries as best I can - both for teachers and for students.<br>
<br>
However, is this an approach that you all like?<br>
<br>
That is, would you prefer a text that is the study design (and nothing else)? Or would you prefer a text that contains extra material that allows students to expand their knowledge if they wish?<br>
<br>
Please let me know your thoughts! Any other feedback would also be much appreciated!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Adrian Janson<br>
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Hi Simon,<br>
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The new study design wasn't an attachment. It's on the VCAA website: <a href="https://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/studies/computing/computingindex.aspx">
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Hi Mike,<br>
<br>
I didn't get the attachment - there was a line indicated it had been "scrubbed". I presume this is a security setting. Can anyone enlighten me as to whether this is a mailing list setting or something to be sorted out internally with my IT admin?<br>
<br>
The list sounds very useful, embarking on my first year of SD teaching.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Simon Dorrat<br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 02:40:09 +0000<br>
From: Mike Fitzpatrick <michael.fitzpatrick@carey.com.au><br>
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] New study design - SD:CT&P<br>
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Hi<br>
I prefer by SACs.<br>
I needed to do the attached list to help keep track of KKs and SACs.<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
<br>
From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au> On Behalf Of Adrian Janson<br>
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2019 12:56 PM<br>
To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] New study design - SD:CT&P<br>
<br>
Hi Michael,<br>
<br>
I could? What I usually start by doing is organising the KK points into chapters, but I can see if they can organised better by SAC? Perhaps I could do a draft chapter list for each and post it up here for comment?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Adrian<br>
<br>
On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:47 PM Cooper, Michael J <cooper.michael.j@edumail.vic.gov.au<mailto:cooper.michael.j@edumail.vic.gov.au>> wrote:<br>
HI Adrian,<br>
<br>
I’d prefer to keep the text to the study design only. I figure the kids have so much to learn anyway!<br>
<br>
Also have you considered splitting the content up by outcome (U3O1, U3O2, U4O1, U4O2) rather than chapters you have now?<br>
<br>
Thanks for all your work with the text. Keeping the subject alive!<br>
<br>
Michael Cooper<br>
ICT Coordinator & Network Support<br>
<br>
[BSC Logo]<br>
braybrooksc.vic.edu.au<http://braybrooksc.vic.edu.au/><br>
<br>
From: sofdev <sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au>> On Behalf Of Adrian Janson<br>
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2019 12:12 PM<br>
To: Edulists - Year 12 Software Development <sofdev@edulists.com.au<mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au>><br>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] New study design - SD:CT&P<br>
<br>
Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
Hope the year has started well for you!<br>
<br>
With the new study design being posted yesterday, I will be beginning to work on the new edition of Software Development: Core Techniques and Principles for the new course.<br>
<br>
I would like to ask some questions of you however (as part of the Analysis phase!). I don't mind if you want to reply here or off-list.<br>
<br>
One of the things I have been careful about with the text, is representing the entire course (and not much else). In writing it, I map all of the KK points to the chapters and then write the content - ensuring that I don't step outside the bounds of the Study
Design (or at least - not too far). I also ensure that the PSM and the glossary points are all included and discussed at appropriate points. Some KK points are very succinct while others are quite open - and we rely on the community / VCAA to help define the
boundaries. In the past, I have clarified points with VCAA so that I can represent these boundaries as best I can - both for teachers and for students.<br>
<br>
However, is this an approach that you all like?<br>
<br>
That is, would you prefer a text that is the study design (and nothing else)? Or would you prefer a text that contains extra material that allows students to expand their knowledge if they wish?<br>
<br>
Please let me know your thoughts! Any other feedback would also be much appreciated!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Adrian Janson<br>
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