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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 Mar 2017, at 3:22 pm, Phillip Donald <<a href="mailto:milsendonaldp@gmail.com" class="">milsendonaldp@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Integers are great if the postcode is for Australia, it enforces validation right from the data type. As soon as you go international though, postcode should be a string. I think if you added in a sentence about this being Australia only you could get away with it, especially as it provides a good chance for them to do some data validation.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Vera Cook <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-7175929458809807796WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="">Thankyou Darren,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="">I was going to add file access but as I only have 1 week left of the term I decided to do it later, with a joint class Informatics/software I have been pushed for time. I probably should have used postcode as
an integer and am hoping some of my students pick up on that and I will have to fi point 4 and in task 8 it is supposed to indicate making a tic tac toe game it was a good visual design that I found.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="">Thankyou very much for the feedback
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="">I also decided to give them a choice of either 6 or 7 and either 8 or 9 as they give me variety.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="">Vera<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_-7175929458809807796__MailEndCompose" class=""><span style="color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></a></p>
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<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Darren Scott<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, 24 March 2017 12:08 PM<span class=""><br class="">
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</div><div class=""><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Hey Vera, I just had a quick look over and thought the following
</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">…</span><span class=""> feel free to add or ignore.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><span class="">I</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">’</span><span class="">ve seen a few people mention
that sorting isn</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">’</span><span class="">t in U3O1 specifically, but there</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">’</span><span class="">s
no reason you can</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">’</span><span class="">t do it as an algorithm, so I did sorting in U3O1 anyway
</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">…</span><span class=""> to me, it makes no sense to binary search if you haven</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">’</span><span class="">t
covered sorting first/as well.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Are you doing any file access stuff? XML file formats is a key knowledge so I</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">’</span><span class="">d
recommend putting in something that reads from/writes to a file.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span class="">In task 1 you have postcode as an integer
</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">…</span><span class=""> why not a string? You</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">’</span><span class="">re
never going to do any maths on a postcode.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Task 5 refers to task 1 in the form, but your swapping question is task 2.
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span class="">I don</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">’</span><span class="">t know what you want the
kids to do in task 8 </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="">…</span><span class=""> are they making tic-tac-toe? Or just a subpart of the game where the board is already 6 pieces in?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">How long were you giving for this?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="">Darren<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">If anyone has a chance could you please have a quick look, have I missed a major point or is it too long or both..<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thankyou Vera<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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