<div><div class="gmail_msg">IIRC some Australian postcodes have leading zeroes, which may be better stored as strings to show up properly.</div></div><div class="gmail_msg">And strings would accommodate foreign alphanumeric codes - if needed - in the future.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 at 3:23 PM, Phillip Donald <<a href="mailto:milsendonaldp@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">milsendonaldp@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg">Integers are great if the postcode is for Australia, it enforces validation right from the data type. As soon as you go international though, postcode should be a string. I think if you added in a sentence about this being Australia only you could get away with it, especially as it provides a good chance for them to do some data validation.</div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Vera Cook <span class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">vcook@mscw.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Thankyou Darren,<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">I was going to add file access but as I only have 1 week left of the term I decided to do it later, with a joint class Informatics/software I have been pushed for time. I probably should have used postcode as
an integer and am hoping some of my students pick up on that and I will have to fi point 4 and in task 8 it is supposed to indicate making a tic tac toe game it was a good visual design that I found.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">I also decided to give them a choice of either 6 or 7 and either 8 or 9 as they give me variety.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="color:#1f497d" class="gmail_msg">Vera<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Friday, 24 March 2017 12:08 PM<span class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">Hey Vera, I just had a quick look over and thought the following
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<li class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">I</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">’</span><span class="gmail_msg">ve seen a few people mention
that sorting isn</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">’</span><span class="gmail_msg">t in U3O1 specifically, but there</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">’</span><span class="gmail_msg">s
no reason you can</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">’</span><span class="gmail_msg">t do it as an algorithm, so I did sorting in U3O1 anyway
</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">…</span><span class="gmail_msg"> to me, it makes no sense to binary search if you haven</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">’</span><span class="gmail_msg">t
covered sorting first/as well.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">Are you doing any file access stuff? XML file formats is a key knowledge so I</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">’</span><span class="gmail_msg">d
recommend putting in something that reads from/writes to a file.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">In task 1 you have postcode as an integer
</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">…</span><span class="gmail_msg"> why not a string? You</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">’</span><span class="gmail_msg">re
never going to do any maths on a postcode.<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">Task 5 refers to task 1 in the form, but your swapping question is task 2.
<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">I don</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif" class="gmail_msg">’</span><span class="gmail_msg">t know what you want the
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">How long were you giving for this?<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">Darren<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal gmail_msg">If anyone has a chance could you please have a quick look, have I missed a major point or is it too long or both..<u class="gmail_msg"></u><u class="gmail_msg"></u></p>
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