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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Good afternoon all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I wasn’t at the SAT day this year, but my interpretation was that the UCD and DFD etc are of the proposed system. You’re analysing what the need
<u>is</u>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you draw a UCD of an existing system, how does this feed into the design? You’d be designing for the existing system, not the new. Certainly, if there is an
existing system, you’d use that for some of your analysis, but I would have thought that the diagrams you produce would be showing how to improve on the deficiencies of the existing system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Crewe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 19 March 2017 4:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> sofdev@edulists.com.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] sofdev Digest, Vol 144, Issue 19<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">James, Good to open up discussion, I must have missed discussion at SAT training day about, I would like further clarification from vcaa as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I had students complete tasks without existing systems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">For example one student created a heat map (and stored data) from multiple mouse clicks on a screen over time with had no existing system, manual or otherwise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Tony<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au <sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au>
on behalf of Vella, James <jvella@mackillop.vic.edu.au><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 19 March 2017 3:55 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The glossary, as you've pointed out Tony, talks about breaking down the problem and providing input to the design stage.<br>
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As I said earlier, almost every need or opportunity will have some existing manual process or previous system in place.<br>
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If I'm not mistaken, this has also been tackled at the SAT PD days and it was stated that it was the existing system - I might be wrong so happy for the Phil, Paula or any others to add their 2c.<br>
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1. Diagrams in the SRS - of which system? (Vella, James)<br>
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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:49:16 +0000<br>
From: "Vella, James" <jvella@mackillop.vic.edu.au><br>
Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Diagrams in the SRS - of which system?<br>
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The diagrams should be of the existing system or process.<br>
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Regardless of whether students are looking to meet a need or opportunity, there is almost always some existing system or manual process in place.<br>
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The SRS is part of the Analysis stage - not the Design stage.<br>
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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 04:10:42 +0000<br>
From: Tony Crewe <TonyCrewe@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au><br>
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James<br>
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Not sure about that James,<br>
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There may not be any existing system in a need or opportunity.<br>
Can't the analysis can be of the desired need or opportunity.<br>
That is, the SRS would be analysing the requirements, processes and flow of data of the need of opportunity?<br>
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Tony<br>
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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 04:16:25 +0000<br>
From: Tony Crewe <TonyCrewe@caulfieldgs.vic.edu.au><br>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Diagrams in the SRS - of which system?<br>
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James<br>
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The Glossary definition says nothing specifically of an exisiting system, but breaking down a problem ... description of the intended purpose ... of solution.<br>
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"Software requirements specification is a comprehensive description of the intended purpose and environment for purpose-designed software solutions. It documents the key activities associated with the analysing stage of the problem-solving methodology.<br>
Software requirements specifications (SRS) fulfil the purposes of breaking down a problem into component parts, providing input to the design stage and serving as a reference point for further stages of the problem-solving methodology."<br>
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