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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=341330523-16022017><FONT face=Arial>I have
never taught Software Development. However I would think that using different
languages in a SAC would be fine, so long as they were approved languages.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=341330523-16022017><FONT face=Arial>Sure the
same task under the same conditions but using any one of the approved
languages.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Retired</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Darren
Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 17 February 2017 9:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12
SofDev] Student query<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">I</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU'>’</SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">ve got the same understanding as Geoff. SACs
must be under the exact same conditions for all students in the cohort to
enforce fairness and equity (aside from the special conditions that your VCE
coordinator applies for, like rest breaks, printing on a different colour page,
etc.). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">For the SAT
there</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU'>’</SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">s more room of choice, a bit like the design
& tech kids who can choose to work in metal, plastic and/or
wood.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">Also pointing out
dot point 3 in the SAT authentication procedures:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU'>3. Undue
assistance should not occur at any time during the development of the body of
work, and<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU'>teachers
need to be vigilant. Students are required to demonstrate development of their
thinking<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: "><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU'>and working
practices. Teachers are reminded that it is not appropriate to provide ‘detailed
advice<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU'>on,
corrections to, or actual reworking of students’ work’.</SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A name=_MailEndCompose><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="mso-bookmark: _MailEndCompose"><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">If you feel like you can</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
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style="mso-bookmark: _MailEndCompose"><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">t authenticate a C++ program you can say no,
but if your concern is that you won</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-bookmark: _MailEndCompose"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU'>’</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-bookmark: _MailEndCompose"><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">t be able to help with every little piece of
code, well you</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="mso-bookmark: _MailEndCompose"><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman",serif; mso-fareast-language: EN-AU'>’</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="mso-bookmark: _MailEndCompose"><SPAN
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">re not actually allowed to do that
anyway.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="mso-fareast-language: EN-AU"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Matheson, Geoff
J<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 17, 2017 9:08 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
<sofdev@edulists.com.au><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Student
query<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Fatima, <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>At the risk of getting in before the people with titles to
back them up – I’m pretty sure this is the go:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR>Approving a students’ proposal for the SAT is at the
teachers’ discretion, and as such probably comes down to whether you are
confident you can understand the C++ code well enough to assess his work, and
whether his skills in the language are going to be sufficient to meet the
criteria without the support & resources that would come with doing the same
as the rest of the class. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>But while there’s nothing stopping a student using a
different language on the SAT, I’m pretty sure the student should be doing the
SAC work in the same language. But I’m less confident of that
one.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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Teachers' Mailing List <</SPAN><A href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB>sofdev@edulists.com.au</SPAN></A><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="COLOR: black">><BR><B>Date: </B>Friday, 17 February 2017 at 8:44
am<BR><B>To: </B>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
<</SPAN><A href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB>sofdev@edulists.com.au</SPAN></A><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="COLOR: black">><BR><B>Subject: </B>[Year 12 SofDev] Student
query</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB>Good morning and happy Friday to
all!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB>I have a student in my SD class who wants to
do all his SAC/SAT work in C++. Our school however is using Visual Basic.
Is it okay for him to use C++?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB>Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P align=left color="#000000" avgcert??>No virus found in this
message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A
href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version:
2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13956 - Release Date:
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