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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That’s a great idea Daryl,
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I will make sure to do that,<br>
I only need to find 10 next year so it should work out pretty well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Also, no idea why I keep failing the “fraud detection checks”… weird.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Chris</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 17 November 2016 2:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Review of the year and the new study design<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Daryl. I don't mean to be semantically pedantic, but there is a big difference between a "kiss-arse app" and a "kick-arse app". <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wonder which you meant to say.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">:-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 17 November 2016 at 14:14, Croke, Daryl D <<a href="mailto:croke.daryl.d@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">croke.daryl.d@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">The issue of students approached people cold for a the SAT is real concern. What I did this year was help facilitate this a bit by sending a email out all senior teachers at my
school. The teachers came up with App ideas and I then got students (first in first dressed basis) to chose from the app idea list. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">That overcame the issue of approaching clients, they could talk to people they knew. The problem was getting them to develop an ongoing relationship with clients and properly deconstructing
the problem and therefore developing a kiss-arse app.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Daryl Croke<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Mount Ridley College<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">keep on coding</span></i></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">
</span><a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"> [</span><a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">]
on behalf of Chris MCDONALD [</span><a href="mailto:MCDONALD.Chris@bssc.edu.au" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">MCDONALD.Chris@bssc.edu.au</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 17 November 2016 1:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> '</span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Review of the year and the new study design</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Just sitting down to have a serious look at the year and improve my course.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">A sort out and rewrite of things that did not go as well as I thought.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Keep the good stuff and rewrite the rest.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Thanks to the active members on the list. You have made my life easy or rather easier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">My major concern is the nature of the SAT with a large class of students.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">This will be the main food for thought before we start next year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Basically : The quality of the problem and the client determines the overall performance on the SAT.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Students who are able to generate good problems based on approachable clients have an extreme advantage over students who lack the confidence or initial
knowledge to find a client.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">The less able student will often generate an unworkable problem or simplify make up a client ( as I found out too late to do much about it)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">From this starting point the student is prevented from scoring highly on most of the 8 criteria.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">So on reflection I will be looking at
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<p class="gmail-m9035825035487667567msolistparagraph"><span style="color:black">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="color:black">Develop the awareness of what is required in the SAT before the new school year. Step up next week<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="color:black">Develop clear expectations as to what is required in a quality problem (Searching Sorting etc.)
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</span><span style="color:black">Development of practice scenarios in the creation of a suitable SAT topic.
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</span><span style="color:black">Refusing students to progress further with unsuitable topics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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