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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lisa Kerekes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 15 November 2016 1:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SD exam 2016 - A20 - FR and NFR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sorry Mark, but are you saying that you think all of the wrong answers, should be the opposite of the right one?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ie. That all the wrong answers should be FRs?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Because yes, I’d agree that some of the answers appear to be sys objectives. And yes, the answers could have been written without numeric values
in them to be obviously incorrect. But it’s not the biggest issue in the exam.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And agree with Andrew about the definitions – hopefully based on those, students would easily be able to select the NFR.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lisa Kerekes<br>
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Phone: (03) 9844 2471 Ext: 266<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Phone: (03) 9844 2471 Ext: 266<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Shortell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 November 2016 3:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SD exam 2016 - A20 - FR and NFR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">the question a20 lists Non FR with a number<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">is it not irrelevant whether it has a number but more relevant if it is functional or NON functional?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">are there many people who neglect to define functional as something the software actually does that one want s it to do?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">and non functional as other things (such as it it could be blue text on a pink background)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am happy that you noticed <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14 Nov 2016, at 2:43 pm, Mark <<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com">mark@vceit.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since when did the definition of a functional requirement (FR) become, "It must have a number attached to it, such as 3%, 500 users or 5mbps?"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is the definition of FR suddenly the same as a 'system objective' ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sadly, the study design never defines FR or NFR, but Q A20 in the exam seems to be
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<p class="MsoNormal">And I don't like it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't like it its implied definition at all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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