<div dir="ltr">Hi Andrew,<div><br></div><div>Mark explained it well. I guess from my perspective, the second I think of testing, I think of "boundary value analysis". It's really one of the main parts of testing - so while the term itself is not used (and really then - I shouldn't have had a question that was quite so explicit), the concept will be one that will be well understood by students. </div><div><br></div><div>VCAA could certainly ask students to perform a boundary value analysis and could even ask a question where a student could reply with an answer that uses the term 'boundary value analysis' *(in the right context - and with an explanation). But VCAA won't use the term in the way I have.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Adrian</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Mark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank">mark@vceit.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Andrew<div><br></div><div>Teh study design seems to be deliberately getting more and more vague (or should I say "less prescriptive"?) as time goes on. </div><div><br></div><div>While it does not enumerate as many mandated "including" topics, it does leave teh gate open for many valid interpretations of KK.</div><div><br></div><div>I have always considered boundary conditions to be a key factor in testing, since so many exam questions have focused on teh difference between < > and <= and >=.</div><div><br></div><div>If teh design does not mention a term, it cannot be explicitly examined. However students can use teh term or concept (where relevant. e.g. "CamelCase") in their answers and earn marks.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>And speaking of ants, here's some holiday frivolity.</div><div><br></div><div>Apparently many of you guys have these "holidays".<br></div><div>Spare a charitable thought for us retired folk who NEVER get to have a day off.</div><div>It's just day in, day out relaxing and walking on the beach, and doing whatever we want when we want.</div><div>When will this hell EVER end?</div><div><br></div><div><br><img src="cid:ii_ite91njm1_15751a2191627b63" width="472" height="228"><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 22 September 2016 at 17:31, Andrew Shortell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net" target="_blank">shortell@get2me.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">hi all<div>I am enjoying my break from classes unlike some of my students who are actually practising for the exams (not all)</div><div>While I was outside fencing (no I was not counting cows correctly OR accurately just bloddy rabbits and rabbit holes and ant nests) i was thinking about work things.</div><div><br></div><div>In teh Janson practice exam 1 there is
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</div><div>I deduce that it is testing just outside the boundary and if < then on teh boundary and if <= then one above the boundary?</div><div><br></div><div>I went looking through the study design last night and the term Boundary value is not explicitly mentioned (as far as I found …. )</div><div>of course my better students complained that I had not taught them about it</div><div><br></div><div>that led me to think about test table values - how precisely on teh boundary do they need to be in the exam?</div><div>when is close enough good enough? etc…</div><div><br></div><div>Any advice?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br></div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Andrew Shortell</div><div>Educator</div><div>CRC Melton</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net" target="_blank">shortell@get2me.net</a> (This List)</div><div>@acsbear8 (twitter)</div></div></span></div></span></div><br></div><br></div><br></div><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br>
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