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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=523424408-03092016><FONT face=Arial>That
would be nice - or perhaps they really meant "aacuracy" and "consistency"
:-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=141473702-12072015><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Retired</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Saturday, 3 September 2016 6:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software Development
Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity:
different between accuracyandcorrectness<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Maybe we should ask VCAA what the study design means by "accuracy"
and "correctness".
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<DIV>After all, VCAA started this fight, and VCAA must know the meaning of the
terms it is examining.</DIV>
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<DIV>Mark</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 1 September 2016 at 22:02, Robert Hind <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com"
target=_blank>robert@yinnar.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex"><BR>PS
- It is woth noting that most writing on data integrity refers to<BR>"accuracy
and consistency" and does not mention "correctness"<BR><SPAN
class="im HOEnZb"><BR>Robert Hind<BR>Ex Traralgon and
Ashwood<BR>Retired<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR></SPAN><SPAN
class="im HOEnZb">From: Robert Hind [mailto:<A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A>]<BR>Sent: Thursday, 1
September 2016 9:54 PM<BR>To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing
List'<BR></SPAN>
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<DIV class=h5>Subject: RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between
accuracy<BR>andcorrectness<BR><BR>Hi all, my 2c worth again - from the
perspective of working with data and on<BR>database design since the early
90s.<BR><BR>We are talking here about data integrity.<BR><BR>We are not
talking about the accuracy or precision of measurements in terms<BR>number of
significant figures or decimal places.<BR>We are not talking about data
formats, eg dd/mm/yyyy versus mm/dd/yyyy or<BR>yyyy/mm/dd<BR><BR>Andrew's
example of stating his height as 1.564334m IS a measurement<BR>"accurate" to 6
decimal places but it is not accurate/correct as a statement<BR>of his
height.<BR><BR>I still consider correctness and accuracy as being synonymous
terms when<BR>talking about data integrity.<BR><BR>Robert Hind<BR>Ex Traralgon
and Ashwood<BR>Retired<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
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Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between
accuracy<BR>andcorrectness<BR><BR>Hi all,<BR>I have spoken about accuracy in
terms of precision.<BR><BR>I could say I am about 1.8 metres tall. That is
correct, but not accurate.<BR>I could say I am 1.564334 metres tall. That is
accurate, but not correct.<BR>Each situation will require a different level of
accuracy that is acceptable<BR>or expected.<BR>Can't think of a situation
where accuracy is important but correctness not.<BR><BR>Andrew Pate<BR>VCE
Computing teacher<BR>Mentone Grammar<BR><BR>-----Original
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1<BR>Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:11:17 +0000<BR>From: "Rattan, Kushum L" <<A
href="mailto:rattan.kushum.l@edumail.vic.gov.au">rattan.kushum.l@edumail.vic.<WBR>gov.au</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different
between<BR> accuracy
andcorrectness?<BR>To: "Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing
List"<BR> <<A
href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">sofdev@edulists.com.au</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR><BR><<A
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text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR>My mobile no is same. I was in a meeting
when you rang<BR><BR>Kushum Rattan<BR>ICT Curriculum Area Leader<BR>VET
Co-ordinator<BR>Gisborne Secondary College<BR>Phone: 03 54283691<BR><A
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Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Data Integrity: different between
accuracy<BR>andcorrectness?<BR><BR>And I teach them that dates recorded in
this format in a file-naming<BR>convention is both correct and accurate as the
files self-sort by date.<BR>YYYYMMDD<BR><BR>[logo]<BR><BR><BR>David Dawson |
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On Behalf Of Travis Parker<BR>Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 3:31 PM<BR>To:
Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR>Subject: Re: [Year 12
SofDev] Data Integrity: different between
accuracy<BR>andcorrectness?<BR><BR>Sorry I did mean the opposite! Big
week.<BR><BR>Try again??.<BR>I taught my kids that if you are asked for a date
in DD/MM/YYY format in a<BR>program then whilst ?1st of September 2016? is
accurate, writing 01/09/2016<BR>is correct.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Travis
Parker<BR>Timetabler<BR>The Knox School<BR><BR>From: <A
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On Behalf Of Mark<BR>Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 2:40 PM<BR>To: Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev]
Data Integrity: different between accuracy<BR>andcorrectness?<BR><BR>I'd say
the opposite.<BR><BR>I don't think this question is ever going to be answered
until we have a<BR>plebiscite, a Royal Commission or at least a dance-off
competition.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Mark<BR><BR>On 1 September 2016 at 14:17,
Travis Parker<BR><<A
href="mailto:Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au">Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au</A><WBR><mailto:<A
href="mailto:Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au">Travis.Parker@knox.<WBR>vic.edu.au</A>>>
wrote:<BR>I taught my kids that if you are asked for a date in DD/MM/YYY
format in a<BR>program then whilst ?1st of September 2016? is technically
correct, writing<BR>01/09/2016 is
accurate.<BR><BR>Mistake???<BR><BR><BR><BR>Travis Parker<BR>Timetabler<BR>The
Knox School<BR><BR>From: <A
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On Behalf Of Robert Hind<BR>Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 1:32 PM<BR>To:
'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<BR>Subject: Re: [Year 12
SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy<BR>andcorrectness?<BR><BR>I
have read Mark's views on this<BR><A
href="http://vceit.com/wp/correctness-versus-accuracy/" rel=noreferrer
target=_blank>http://vceit.com/wp/<WBR>correctness-versus-accuracy/</A><BR><BR>Don't
think they helped :-)<BR><BR><BR>I think they are essentially
synonymous:<BR>eg my phone number is 0477999111 is both accurate and
correct.<BR><BR>Robert Hind<BR>Ex Traralgon and
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On Behalf Of Ben Hines<BR>Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2016 12:54 PM<BR>To:
Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR>Subject: [Year 12
SofDev] Data Integrity: different between accuracy<BR>andcorrectness?<BR>Hi
all,<BR><BR>As part of the five characteristics of data integrity we have both
accuracy<BR>and correctness; how do we differentiate the two of
these?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Ben Hines<BR><BR>Ben Hines<BR>Mathematics and ICT
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