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"I used Hungarian dances to teach sorting", I thought WTF then i found this great playlist on youtube<br>
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"The young people found that for most of them the actual getting up and moving around was a good idea"<br>
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I will try this in Craigieburn it could be bravest thing I've done since getting students at Preston Girls to act out a While Loop :)
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<div style="font-family:Tahoma; font-size:13px"><i><b>keep on coding</b></i></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 20 June 2016 5:26 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] sorting criteria My thoughts<br>
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<div class="">our table discussed the below - are we too harsh, too easy, or in the goldilocks zone?</div>
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<div class="">in the criteria the students have to document and use a complex sort to obtain a 9 or 10</div>
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<div class="">so the documentation can be the internal doc because very few companies produce a “Tech Ref Guide” they just put stuff on their website and let google etc find it</div>
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<div class="">so what is a complex sort</div>
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<div class="">perhaps start at the other end </div>
<div class="">to get 1 or 2 they should be able to use the built in sort function (properly and put internal doc about it)</div>
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<div class="">to get 3 or 4 maybe a bubble sort (I taught it because it is so simple and not too hard to get them to understand it)</div>
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<div class="">to get 5 or 6 maybe a selection sort - documented</div>
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<div class="">to get 7 or 8 a quick sort</div>
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<div class="">to get 9 or 10 they need to display deeper knowledge</div>
<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"></span>such as a quick sort is NOT efficient when the sublist size drops below about fifteen so at that point need to do selection (or insertion) sort</div>
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<div class="">in visual studio the sort method uses quick-sort to a sublist of 16 then selection sort according to MSDN</div>
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<div class="">So the sort method in VB is very complex — but using it is so simple</div>
<div class="">but I want to see that they can code …</div>
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<div class="">I used Hungarian dances to teach sorting - even getting students on their feet and “dancing” around ( I cannot remember for sure who found them on youtube originally [was it Mystery Mark? ] but thanks)</div>
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<div class="">The young people found that for most of them the actual getting up and moving around was a good idea</div>
<div class="">It is also a great way to teach linked lists - not a lot of dancing but my students realised how little movement there is in a linked list!</div>
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