<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Vi</div><div><br></div><div>You should have two print outs for VASS to put marks on. One will have scores for your SACs in Unit 3 Outcome 1 and Unit 4 Outcome 2. This will show a total of 200. All you do for now is to enter in the score out of 100 for Unit 3 Outcome 1. They then get entered. Later on you'll be asked to enter in the scores for Unit 4 Outcome 2 out of 100. These two are added for a score out of 200.</div><div><br></div><div>For the SAT you'll have another sheet asking you to enter in each of the scores for Criteria 1 to 4. It will also give you a total out of 40 for those scores. Later you'll be asked to enter in the scores for Criteria 5 to 8 for Unit 4 Outcome 2. This will then give you a total out of 80. (Although I have noticed that the VASS sheet for the SAT has Criteria 1 to 4 for Unit 4 Outcome 1).</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Phil Feain.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Tran, Vi V <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tran.vi.v@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">tran.vi.v@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi all,</p>
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<p> I have a question about entering results in the VASS sheet.</p>
<p>I'm confused about what to enter for the columns:</p>
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<p>Total GA Score/200</p>
<p>SIAR 2 Score 100</p>
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<p>Unit 4 Outcome 2 - with this column do we don't need to enter anything I assume?</p>
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<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>From Vi.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 June 2016 2:19 PM<br>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font face="Arial">Whoops! Sorry my mistake. Emails from both lists come in to the same folder.</font></span></div>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font face="Arial">Re SD - The rubric is quite specific in what is required to get the highest marks. You are left to interpret terms such as
<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow"><font size="2"><span>"</span>complete and relevant</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial Narrow"><font size="2">set of data for analysis<span>"</span></font></font></p>
<p><span><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">"</font><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">wide range of appropriate</font></span></p>
<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">collection methods and</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial Narrow"><font size="2">techniques.<span>"</span></font></font></p>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font face="Arial">in so far as you feel they relate to the size of the project.</font></span></div>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font face="Arial">The main thing is to be consistent in your application of the criteria across students. You are concerned mainly with ranking your students in order. The marks you give them will
be statistically moderated to give their final scores.</font></span></div>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Robert Hind</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</font></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 June 2016 1:35 PM<br>
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<p>Thanks Robert but I was referring to Software Development.</p>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font face="Arial">Assessment criteria rubric available online</font></span></div>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font face="Arial"><a href="https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/redir.aspx?REF=AH1FRCrAyNKR9l66D9Yemo7PIxr54vuar0-3sJgFytyqllEK6JPTCAFodHRwczovL3d3dy5lZHVtYWlsLnZpYy5nb3YuYXUvb3dhL3JlZGlyLmFzcHg_UkVGPVdzNFZmeUdNdGxsbWpNVmpRa3hCTXJIM1BEWEJPaUNFZDNuSEEyWGpoTGdsTTdyOUZwRFRDQUZvZEhSd09pOHZkM2QzTG5aallXRXVkbWxqTG1Wa2RTNWhkUzlFYjJOMWJXVnVkSE12ZG1ObEwyTnZiWEIxZEdsdVp5OUpibVp2Y20xaGRHbGpjMTlUUWtFdWNHUm0." target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/computing/Informatics_SBA.pdf</a></font></span></div>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Robert Hind</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</font></span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ciappara, Anthony A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:26 AM<br>
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Hi Robert
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<div>Where did that quote come from?</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Anthony</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 8 June 2016 3:52 PM<br>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font face="Arial">I am not teaching at present BUT on reading through criteria 1 to 3 it seems to me that the size of the project only comes into criterion 2 where for a top mark the student</font></span></div>
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<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">Acquires multiple complex data</font></p>
<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">sets of different types of data,</font></p>
<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">qualities and structures from both</font></p>
<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">primary and secondary data</font></p>
<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">sources. Uses appropriate</font></p>
<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow" size="2">methods to acquire data from</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial Narrow"><font size="2">both types of sources.<span>"</span></font></font></p>
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<p><span>but the quantity of data is not specified.</span></p>
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<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Robert Hind</font></span></div>
<div align="left" dir="ltr"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</font></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 8 June 2016 3:13 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Just wondering how people handled marking criteria 1-3 when the size of SAT project scopes differed.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">How does a limited SAT scope affect student results for criteria 1-3?</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">If a student has a simple SAT project with limited functions are they able to score maximum marks for criteria 1-3. What if they get everything right, it’s all perfect,
but the project is just limited in size?</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Eg. A student has a simple project. It validates data, does a simple calculation or two, saves data and allow the user to retrieve data. That’s it. They address all criteria
perfectly, based on this simple project. All their diagrams, SRS and design work is perfect but quite basic because of their limited scope. Where do their results stand compared to a student who has a more difficult project and makes a couple errors? The student
with the more difficult project has a lot more correct, good quality work than the student with the simple project.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">I’ve read as much documentation as I can find but cannot see this scenario mentioned.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Thanks in advance</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN:0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Anthony Ciappara</font></span></p>
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