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<p>Hi all,</p>
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<p> I have a question about entering results in the VASS sheet.</p>
<p>I'm confused about what to enter for the columns:</p>
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<p>Total GA Score/200</p>
<p>SIAR 2 Score 100</p>
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<p>Unit 4 Outcome 2 - with this column do we don't need to enter anything I assume?</p>
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<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>From Vi.</p>
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<div id="divRpF249218" style="DIRECTION: ltr"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Robert Hind [robert@yinnar.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 June 2016 2:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="284335903-09062016"><font face="Arial">Whoops! Sorry my mistake. Emails from both lists come in to the same folder.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="284335903-09062016"><font face="Arial">Re SD - The rubric is quite specific in what is required to get the highest marks. You are left to interpret terms such as
<p align="left"><font face="Arial Narrow"><font size="2"><span class="284335903-09062016">"</span>complete and relevant</font></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial Narrow"><font size="2">set of data for analysis<span class="284335903-09062016">"</span></font></font></p>
<p><span class="284335903-09062016"><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">"</font><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">wide range of appropriate</font></p>
<p align="left"><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">collection methods and</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial Narrow"><font size="2">techniques.<span class="284335903-09062016">"</span></font></font></p>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="284335903-09062016"><font face="Arial">in so far as you feel they relate to the size of the project.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="284335903-09062016"><font face="Arial">The main thing is to be consistent in your application of the criteria across students. You are concerned mainly with ranking your students in order. The marks you give them will
be statistically moderated to give their final scores.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="141473702-12072015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Robert Hind</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="141473702-12072015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</font></span></div>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ciappara, Anthony A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 June 2016 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria<br>
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<p>Thanks Robert but I was referring to Software Development.</p>
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<div id="divRpF855258" style="DIRECTION: ltr"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Robert Hind [robert@yinnar.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 June 2016 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="675500403-09062016"><font face="Arial">Assessment criteria rubric available online</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="675500403-09062016"><font face="Arial"><a href="https://www.edumail.vic.gov.au/owa/redir.aspx?REF=AH1FRCrAyNKR9l66D9Yemo7PIxr54vuar0-3sJgFytyqllEK6JPTCAFodHRwczovL3d3dy5lZHVtYWlsLnZpYy5nb3YuYXUvb3dhL3JlZGlyLmFzcHg_UkVGPVdzNFZmeUdNdGxsbWpNVmpRa3hCTXJIM1BEWEJPaUNFZDNuSEEyWGpoTGdsTTdyOUZwRFRDQUZvZEhSd09pOHZkM2QzTG5aallXRXVkbWxqTG1Wa2RTNWhkUzlFYjJOMWJXVnVkSE12ZG1ObEwyTnZiWEIxZEdsdVp5OUpibVp2Y20xaGRHbGpjMTlUUWtFdWNHUm0." target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/vce/computing/Informatics_SBA.pdf</a></font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="141473702-12072015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Robert Hind</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="141473702-12072015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</font></span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ciappara, Anthony A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria<br>
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Hi Robert
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<div>Where did that quote come from?</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Anthony</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 8 June 2016 3:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="712504705-08062016"><font face="Arial">I am not teaching at present BUT on reading through criteria 1 to 3 it seems to me that the size of the project only comes into criterion 2 where for a top mark the student</font></span></div>
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<p align="left"><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">Acquires multiple complex data</font></p>
<p align="left"><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">sets of different types of data,</font></p>
<p align="left"><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">qualities and structures from both</font></p>
<p align="left"><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">primary and secondary data</font></p>
<p align="left"><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">sources. Uses appropriate</font></p>
<p align="left"><font size="2" face="Arial Narrow">methods to acquire data from</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial Narrow"><font size="2">both types of sources.<span class="712504705-08062016">"</span></font></font></p>
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<p><span class="712504705-08062016">but the quantity of data is not specified.</span></p>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="141473702-12072015"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Ex Traralgon and Ashwood</font></span></div>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ciappara, Anthony A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 8 June 2016 3:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Limited SAT Scope and criteria<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Hi everybody
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Just wondering how people handled marking criteria 1-3 when the size of SAT project scopes differed.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">How does a limited SAT scope affect student results for criteria 1-3?</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">If a student has a simple SAT project with limited functions are they able to score maximum marks for criteria 1-3. What if they get everything right, it’s all perfect,
but the project is just limited in size?</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Eg. A student has a simple project. It validates data, does a simple calculation or two, saves data and allow the user to retrieve data. That’s it. They address all criteria
perfectly, based on this simple project. All their diagrams, SRS and design work is perfect but quite basic because of their limited scope. Where do their results stand compared to a student who has a more difficult project and makes a couple errors? The student
with the more difficult project has a lot more correct, good quality work than the student with the simple project.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">I’ve read as much documentation as I can find but cannot see this scenario mentioned.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Thanks in advance</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 8pt"><span lang="EN-AU"><font face="Calibri">Anthony Ciappara</font></span></p>
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