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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Surely if you teach students about List in a different context to their SAT and have them apply those skills to that SAT that won’t
be undue assistance. The issue is as others have pointed out, if the students answer an array based question on the exam with a list then they will get zero marks for it as lists aren’t on the study design.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brett Fitzsimmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 8 March 2016 7:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Should I teach lists?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I contemplated the same. I have told my students that arrays are functionally limited in most cases, particularly reading data from xml documents. I have used them only in the context of Outcome 1 but will show them a more appropriate data
structure when the time comes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t see how this can be providing undue assistance when the content is not examinable or assessable. Could be wrong though!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7 Mar 2016, at 5:48 PM, ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien <<a href="mailto:Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK@ivanhoe.com.au">Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK@ivanhoe.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’m contemplating whether on not I should teach my students about Lists in C# and VB as they will be of more use to them then Arrays when doing their SAT (List are dynamic
and have more functionality). I just wanted to know what peoples thoughts are on this and if they go beyond the data collections mentioned in the study design. The SD just mentions Arrays and Records.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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