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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Travis and co,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’m in a similar boat with my class. One student wants to use Java and the rest C#. I’m requiring that everyone completes the SAC in C# and then the 1 student
is free to use Java for the SAT (if she still wishes.) On that note, we need to report to the VCAA what language each student is using. Are we reporting on the language they use for the SAC or the SAT? (In most cases they will be the same, but ….)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Travis Parker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 23 February 2016 3:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <sofdev@edulists.com.au><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks guys, fair points made by both. I think I’ll go with VB for the SAC and “whatever you want as long as it responds to the need”
in the SAT.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If I am disadvantaging my students can Paula or someone else up the chain please let me know and I’ll go back to uniformity across
the board!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laurie Savage<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 23 February 2016 3:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My feeling is that in the Folio exercises (U3O1) you are specifying the task quite explicitly and that should include prescribing the language being used - if you are unfamiliar with the language then it it could be difficult to assess
the accuracy and completeness of the task. On the other hand the SAT is open-ended and the specifications come from the customer. The student would be sensible to explore different languages to add functional or non-functional elements to the solution. Mine
are studying PHP but I would be surprised if the better ones didn't include Javascript or SQL in their solution.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 23 Feb 2016, at 2:46 PM, Matheson, Geoff J <<a href="mailto:matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au">matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:#954F72">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a>>
on behalf of Geoff Matheson <<a href="mailto:matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au"><span style="color:#954F72">matheson.geoff.j@edumail.vic.gov.au</span></a>><br>
<b>Reply-To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:#954F72">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, 23 February 2016 at 2:42 PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:#954F72">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:#954F72">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</span></a>>
on behalf of Travis Parker <<a href="mailto:Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au"><span style="color:#954F72">Travis.Parker@knox.vic.edu.au</span></a>><br>
<b>Reply-To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:#954F72">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, 23 February 2016 at 2:29 PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au"><span style="color:#954F72">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Year 12 SofDev] Language options 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have a quick query that’s never come up in the past few years – I generally teach VB (Yes, I’m a basic programmer!) and I have a student who loves using C#. I have asked
him to make both the VB programs in class that we are making as a class and then recreate the same functionality using C#, which he has been doing at home and bringing to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My question is are you allowed to still grade (And more importantly, rank) students using different programming languages within the same cohort?
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