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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s an interesting thought, but from a non-expert point of view there’s a fair bit of potential peril (putting on the black De Bono hat here … ).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The Further course is a single course with options, which the school chooses to teach but the student chooses for the exam. I’m sure everyone here who’s taught
subjects with an option (like IT Apps’ database/spreadsheet choice) has had that one kid who decided to teach themselves the other one and do that on the exam instead. They don’t have that option in the SD/Apps choice as they’re two subjects – if somewhere
in the distant future they merged into one, with a programming/SD module and an Apps module, it might work.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It would also be harder to convince the parents to fork out an extra 50% on parts of a book that the student doesn’t need. Parents are already dirty when the
teacher doesn’t use every square inch of the textbook including the front and back cover.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The idea works great for websites (like our other SD bible, Mark Kelly’s vceit.com), so that flows into the other philosophical question – when are we doing
away with textbooks completely and going strictly online? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Darren<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paragreen, Chris J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 9 October 2015 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Textbook for SD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just a stray thought ….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is one solution to have one textbook for VCE IT that covers both Informatics and Software Development? There is a degree of overlap between the studies, and
could be likened to Further Maths core and modules ….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Scott<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 October 2015 3:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Textbook for SD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yep, thanks again to Adrian … though looking at the trends in numbers there could be a day when Sof Dev (1290 in 2014) overlaps IT Apps/Informatics (2500).
We’re only running SD in the near future (decision from our school’s curriculum people). For those who don’t want to trawl through the enrolment numbers,
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/expertise/it-crowd-shrinking-as-vce-enrolments-plummet-20140907-10dizx.html">
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/expertise/it-crowd-shrinking-as-vce-enrolments-plummet-20140907-10dizx.html</a> is an old (2014) news story that has a nice interactive graph down the bottom that you can get an idea of enrolments from. Perhaps Adrian’s time machine
is telling him something of the future? </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As an obligatory “take this to another subject”, for those teaching Further Maths as well – when you get to transforming data in the Core stats unit, the IPM/IT
Apps numbers over the last 10-15 years produce an excellent model of a third-quadrant transformation for a test or SAC. We used the numbers to make a SAC a couple of years ago - we renamed the subject as VCE Basket Weaving, taught by Mrs Hugo, to protect the
identity of the subject. As a trade-off for Computing people, the networks chapter in any Further book is great for examples to turn into Gantt charts (FM does PERT/CPM charts which you can steal and convert).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Darren Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Janson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 October 2015 2:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edulists - Year 12 Software Development<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Textbook for SD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Yes - 100% market share is good, but having said that - it's still a close thing! That's why none of the publishers will produce a text for a small subject like SD. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:
<a href="mailto:pikep@bmg.vic.edu.au">pikep@bmg.vic.edu.au</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a><br>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 02:59:57 +0000<br>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Textbook for SD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks goodness for Adrian.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That’s the problem with having a small cohort.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cooper, Michael J<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 October 2015 1:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Textbook for SD</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi all,<br>
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I haven’t seen this mentioned on the list, I just received confirmation from Cengage Learning that Nelson will not be publishing a SD textbook for the new study design. We currently use their IT:A text for year 11 and 12, but are moving to SD next year.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">They recommended Adrian’s book as the only text being published in this subject.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">How does 100% market share sound?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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