<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://47/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Well done Kevork<div><br></div><div>looking at some of the things on the lists there are teachers who want to improve their skills and this looks like it could do that!</div><div>for some it could be justified as a pathway to better qualifications and so some schools might give some help to them to enrol and actually attain their cert IV</div><div><br></div><div>good luck and if you need help I am too far away (laugh .. and there is always distance / remote learning)</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On 22/04/2014, at 12:53 PM, WEIR Andrew <<a href="mailto:andrew.weir@thomascarr.vic.edu.au">andrew.weir@thomascarr.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-AU" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Kevork,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">This sounds amazing.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I would enjoy working through these types of things.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I am already working at SQL and other, I have used XNA and c# with Adrian Janson’s resources and at the moment this programming is something I would like to know more about so that I can use it my self and present it to the school especially with our pathways programs.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><tbody><tr style="height: 83.3pt; "><td width="155" valign="top" style="width: 116pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; height: 83.3pt; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span><image001.jpg></span><o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="337" valign="top" style="width: 252.9pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt; height: 83.3pt; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Mr Andrew Weir<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Head Of Learning - eLearning<o:p></o:p></span></b></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; ">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:sofdev-<a href="mailto:bounces@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; ">bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Kevork KROZIAN<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, 22 April 2014 12:48 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; ">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; ">yr11it@edulists.com.au</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Year 12 SofDev] An epiphany - programming is alive and well . Java, Android, Visual Studio.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Dear Everyone<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I recently had a few students enrol in my Cert IV (Networking) ICA40411 course who were not up with the Networking demands ( they did not choose Cisco as a co-requisite ) and requested to do programming as part of their qualification.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Yes, students asked to do programming !<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">So, I modified/adjusted the course to import a number of programming units including Java, Visual Studio, Mobile Application Development, SQL, OOP etc.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Here are some of the units for the programming . You can find full unit documentation at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.training.gov.au" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; ">www.training.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: white; "><strong style="font-style: normal; "><u><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">Programming Electives</span></u></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">1. ICAPRG414A Apply introductory programming skills in another language (60)<br>2. ICAPRG414A Develop mobile applications (50)<br>3. ICAICT420A Develop client user interface (40)<br>4. ICAPRG425A Use Structured Query Language (60)<br>5. ICANWK408A Configure a Desktop Environment (40)<br>6. ICAPRG406A Apply introductory object-oriented language skills. Much of the writing of classes, arraylists of classes etc fit nicely here.<br>7. ICAPRG527A Apply intermediate object-oriented language skills</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">What is interesting is that this opportunity allowed me to investigate several options such as:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.7pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: -17.85pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">1.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">Installation of Eclipse with the Android SDK for mobile device programming and the WindowBuilder plug in for easy GUI programming.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.7pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: -17.85pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">2.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">Writing a course in Java programming using Eclipse. I prepared a student workbook as a Draft 1 for ICAPRG414A Apply introductory programming skills in another language (60). I have attached the first<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><u>draft</u></b>version of the student workbook . This was a quick effort to get started.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.7pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">Three cheers for youtube for saving hundreds of hours of preparation time.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 35.7pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: -17.85pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">3.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">For ICAPRG414A Develop mobile applications (50), Writing Windows 8 Applications using Visual Studio and C#. Student Workbook is being written.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">4.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">As an alternative to ICAPRG414A Develop mobile applications (50), use of the Android SDK from<a href="http://developer.android.com/" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; ">http://developer.android.com/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>with online lessons for mobile applications. Student Workbook is being written.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">5.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">ICAPRG425A Use Structured Query Language (60). I had used MySQL extensively with PHP in the past and this knowledge fits like a glove with this unit.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">6.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">ICAICT420A Develop client user interface (40) looks like our current Software Development Outcome 41 developing a mobile device prototype.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">What is more amazing is the work I had done with java and Xbox XNA C# programming also dovetails nicely into a few other units such as :</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">1.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">ICAPRG406A Apply introductory object-oriented language skills. Much of the writing of classes, inheritance, polymorphism, arraylists of classes, connecting to MySQL, text and binary file saving/reading fits nicely here.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">2.</span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; ">ICAPRG527A - Apply intermediate object-oriented language skills</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN" style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">More generally and more strategically what numbers of teachers feel this type of knowledge would be something they would like/love/”not care about” professional learning in ?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Kevork Krozian<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">IT Pathways Manager<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Ringwood Trade Training Facility<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Tel: 0419 356 034<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> </span></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: gray; "><br>Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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