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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yes Tim, I do remember Honeywell and DEC and
Burroughs. Not sure if I used any of them however. When I was at UEA in 1973-74
doing my Masters we just called it the computer centre, worked on programs
during the day, put in our jobs at night (punched cards) to get most memory (25K
if I remember correctly) and collected output in the morning. At
Lancaster in 1975-76 we had advanced to input at a terminal rather than needing
to use cards. Had access to SPSS and another stats program the name of which
eludes me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Hind<BR>Retired<BR>Ex Traralgon and
Ashwood</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=timmer@westnet.com.au href="mailto:timmer@westnet.com.au">Robert
Timmer-Arends</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sofdev@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 28, 2013 4:49
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Another
brick in the software wall</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><FONT color=#1f497d>Who remembers Honeywell?
Anyone?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><FONT color=#1f497d></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><FONT color=#1f497d>Yes, and DEC and Burroughs
and ...</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><FONT color=#1f497d></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><FONT color=#1f497d>Regards</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><FONT color=#1f497d>Robert
T-A<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au
href="mailto:savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au">Savage, John L</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sofdev@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 28, 2013 9:55
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Another
brick in the software wall</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Back in Planning Branch in
Telstra we had an oh so cool Apple IIE beefed up to 64k (I think that was
the maximum RAM) running Visicalc and Zardax. It cut weeks of drudge-work
off my work schedule (I was a forecaster calculating regressions, weighted
smoothed averages and Box-Jenkins data smoothing routines to model sales and
traffic). The high point of the poor beast’s usage was using it as a
dumb terminal to control SPSS on a Honeywell Mainframe. </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Laurie
Savage<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d">http://accelerus.pvgc.vic.edu.au<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Kent Beveridge<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 23 October 2013
10:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Another brick in the software
wall<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Walking from the maths building to the computer centre
with the punched cards....been there, done that!...RMIT.circa
1982.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Bfn!<BR><BR><B>Kent Beveridge</B> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>ICT Coordinator & Maths
teacher<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>On 23 Oct 2013, at 9:18
pm, "Andrew Shortell" <<A
href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">shortell@get2me.net</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I do believe you could perhaps add letters after your
name <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I hereby confer AD(companion) upon
you.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>You rate the halo of companion to the glorious order of
associate dinosaurs as you can still remember what you did with the items
under discussion.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I recently disposed of archived punch cards and mark
sense cards from 1978 when i was at uni which I used to input my
programmes into the computers.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>(for those under 55 we used to punch all of the cards
(using a terminal), take them in large boxes to the computer building,
hand them over and come back 12 - 20 hours later to get our print
outs.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>after a couple of box drops I started to sequentially
number my cards on the obverse side ...)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>it was a lot of fun and we felt we were exploring new
frontiers. I enjoyed it.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>now we are exploring different new frontiers in
pedagogy with 1:1, flipped learning etc.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Andrew
Shortell<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Educator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">CRC
Melton<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><A
href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net">shortell@get2me.net</A> (This
List)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">@acsbear8
(twitter)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><A
href="http://www.vitta.org.au/">VITTA</A> CoM
Member<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 23/10/2013, at 8:44 PM, Kent Beveridge <<A
href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Maybe I didn't 'teach' with the TRS80, it was on my
work desk...not a classroom desk! I was doing production planner/stock
controller work! This was the first MIcro-computer I used for a wage!
I did use the cyber at RMIT in the early 1980's with punched cards
during a mathematics degree!then later the VAX/VMS and DG MVS systems in
the stock broking industry(various clients).<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Ps...I used early spreadsheets in my job too....funny
how the formulae are still similar to back then!<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I enjoying this
yak(thread)!... <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Sooo Andrew, I reckon perhaps an associate dinosaur
membership then as I used these techs
professionally...??<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>And I did teach others to use them too!....it's called
job training!<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Hehehe...<BR>Kent.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR><B>Kent Beveridge</B> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>ICT Coordinator & Maths
teacher<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>On 23 Oct 2013, at 5:21
pm, "Robert Hind" <<A
href="mailto:robert@yinnar.com">robert@yinnar.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=Russo.Frank.R@edumail.vic.gov.au
href="mailto:Russo.Frank.R@edumail.vic.gov.au">Russo, Frank R</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=sofdev@edulists.com.au href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">Year
12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Wednesday,
October 23, 2013 5:00 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [Year
12 SofDev] Another brick in the software
wall<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Bring back the Apple
IIe I say…..lol</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">This is becoming like
an old Monty python sketch…I remember when I used to get up half an
hour before I went to sleep and lick the road clean with wet tongue
!!!</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Ay you were
lucky………….</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Frank
Russo</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mobile:
0409022197</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Work: 9781
7700</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Leading
Teacher ~ Daily Organiser<BR>Domain Leader for Science
Faculty<BR>Teacher:- IT, Maths, Science, Inquiry & My
Community.<BR>AEU Branch President<BR>Consultative &
Planning Committee Member</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Silvertop
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Frankston
North</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Victoria,
Australia</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US> <A
href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>
[<A
href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Robert Hind<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 23 October
2013 3:00 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Another brick in
the software wall</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Great to
hear you youngsters arguing about being dinosaurs
:-)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The first
computer I used, in about 1971, was a Fairchild Nova. Cost about
$40,000 and came with 2k of, ferrite core, RAM, teletype terminal,
paper tape reader and magnetic tape
storage.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">First
computer I used in teaching was a TRS-80, in 1978. My own first
computer was a Dick Smith System-80 which I was able to upgrade to 48k
RAM.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:27 PM</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re:
[Year 12 SofDev] Another brick in the software
wall</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>no Kent <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>unless you actually taught with them (like I
did)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>you are merely a
"memory"saur <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>:: greybeard moment #1: I used a Mac where the OS
was on a floppy and the wealthy had two floppy drives so the data
could be stored without removing the OS disk<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>#2 I recall that at my father's work they had
hard drives in a room and each was in a box 1 metre high by .9 by .9
and they EACH contained 1 Megabyte of data. Enormous
(then)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I still mourn the loss of Oscar the Grouch
singing to me when I emptied the trash on my early
mac<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Andrew<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Educator</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">CRC
Melton</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">@acsbear8
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 23/10/2013, at 1:46 PM, Kent Beveridge <<A
href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">OMG
Mark...I remember the 'trash' 80 too!
(Tandy)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Way back
in 'pre-teacher' days for me! (had one on my
desk!!!)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sooo,
does that mean I qualify as a
dinosaur???</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Poor Richard','serif'; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: blue">Kent
Beveridge</SPAN></STRONG><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #3366ff; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ICT
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
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class=apple-converted-space><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
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on behalf of Mark [<A
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class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Wednesday, 23 October 2013
1:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[Year 12 SofDev] Another
brick in the software wall</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>The end of paid operating systems?
<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><A
href="http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/apple-ends-paid-oses/"
target=_blank>http://www.wired.com/business/2013/10/apple-ends-paid-oses/</A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>(Strokes grey beard)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I remember the good ol' days when the OS came in
ROM. As for EPROM... luxury!!<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>In next week's Greybeard
Moment...<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I waggle my finger at young people and explain
how my 1978 TRS-80 with 4KB of RAM (yes, kilobytes, not megabytes)
only had uppercase characters to save on storage. A full ASCII
set is a senseless extravagance, I tell you!<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Mark Kelly<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>mark AT vceit DOT com<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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