<div dir="ltr">Hi all. Databases were not, as far as I know, ever a part of SD's study design. <div>The problem was that too many people were starting to use databases so much that the core principles of traditional programming were being neglected.<div>
<br></div><div style>The current study design explicitly rules out the use of database programming for that reason: so students focus on core principles rather than an exotic and esoteric subset of programming.</div><div style>
<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 February 2013 08:38, Kevork Krozian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">kevork@edulists.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Hi James,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> I like your idea of a list of emerging technologies and perhaps an annually maintained list so it doesn’t need to be future proof for 4 years.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">It would be really good to hear from people who argue that we should not have not databases in SD by shifting the debate to the programming rather than the storage. Check out the Horizon Report for what is expected in 1, 3 and 5 years.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">With the programming, I have been trying to find a solution to the issue that has not been resolved regarding databases vs files.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Wouldn’t it be better to mandate programming skills rather than how to store or retrieve data ?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">For example, SAC31 will have the following programming structures and skills:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">1D arrays and/or records <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Integers, reals/floats/doubles, strings and Booleans<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Validation for existence, range and type<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Storage to persistent memory and retrieval<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Selection and iteration <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">And ………<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">SAC41 will have the following programming structures and skills:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">2D arrays and/or stacks and/or queues and/or linked lists and/or ……<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Integers, reals/floats/doubles, strings and Booleans<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Calls to functions and/or procedures with or without parameter passing<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Validation for existence, range and type<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Storage to persistent memory and retrieval<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Iteration, selection, <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>7.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">The use of a mobile device to demonstrate features of the solution<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>8.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">And. ………..<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">We need to focus on the programming rather than the storage . In that way everyone will deliver the same skill set rather than continuing the unwinnable argument about databases vs files.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Take Care<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Kevork Krozian<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Edulists Creator Administrator<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au" target="_blank">www.edulists.com.au</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">tel: 0419 356 034<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vella, James<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 7 February 2013 4:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev@edulists.com.au</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] The next study design & Thanks to Mark<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><a name="13cc644bcd2022ed__MailEndCompose"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> </span><span lang="EN-US">Maybe for U1/2 we could look at an approved list of emerging technologies (similar to that of approved languages) for U1O2 where they currently talk of Social networking, robotics & artificial intelligence et al. This list could then be dynamic for every year of the study design – just to keep things nice and fresh</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> </span><span lang="EN-US">It would be awesome for the definition of scope to be clarified<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""> </span><span lang="EN-US">Would I become an outcast if I said databases should make a return to being utilized in SD? Is there really a difference between inputting data from a text file which stores data and a formal database…please don’t banish me!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">I’m sure more ideas will pop into my head soon enough<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">Also, a big thanks to Mark for his great site, his resources and his exam post mortems that have kept us all relatively sane over the years. The site and resources have definitely helped me keep my head above water over the past couple of years teaching IT.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Message: 1<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:02:19 +1100<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">From: Mark <<a href="mailto:mark@vceit.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mark@vceit.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] The Next Study Design<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">To: "Year 12 IT Applications Teachers' Mailing List"<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <<a href="mailto:itapps@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">itapps@edulists.com.au</span></a>>, "Year 12 Software Development Teachers'<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a>>, "Year 11 Information<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> Technology Teachers' Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:yr11it@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">yr11it@edulists.com.au</span></a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Message-ID:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <<a href="mailto:CACu=8Z2J-ejb3JDx-V-rd+7pHJBVcB=jYjbBH6Uve2EPxbKvxQ@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">CACu=8Z2J-ejb3JDx-V-rd+7pHJBVcB=jYjbBH6Uve2EPxbKvxQ@mail.gmail.com</span></a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">We are now halfway through the 'new' study design and moves will be underway before too long to start designing the next study design. You might want to start sharpening your pencils and knives for that bunfight.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">To start the buns flying, I would suggest:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Study design in general -<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Can we (I?) please get guidance on how defining scope is different to determining solution requirements? As I see it, defining one's functional and non-functional requirements necessarily also defines scope. If they don't completely define scope, what is missing?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- A personal annoyance of mine in the mandated PSM is that determining evaluation criteria is part of the design phase. Surely it's part of logical design, not physical design, and could and should happen during analysis?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- The PSM leaves out training from the development phase.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Implementation has been omitted from the PSM. I think it needs to return, as a separate step or at the end of development.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Let's make sure the detailed examples actually obey the mandated requirements of outcomes: ITA U4O2, I'm looking at YOU.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Make sure mandated requirements actually appear in mandated sections of the study design, and not in the "Advice" or "Recommendations" sections - ITA U4O2's "organisations" with a significant S, I'm still looking at YOU - was just unfair.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">- All significant changes to a study design should be clearly flagged, and not subtly changed.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- There should be a single (online) point of truth for all mandated VCE IT course and task requirements: sprinkling them across a study design, assessment handbook, FAQs and VCAA bulletins (some up to 3 years old!) leads to accidental non-compliance by teachers.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Units 1 & 2 -<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- I'm pretty happy with the balance overall, but some 'sexying up' would help attract punters - e.g. programming web apps, image/audio editing.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Perhaps an 'integrated project' to bring together several IT skills into one information product.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">- Definitely keep the groupwork.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Definitely keep the client project. I loved throwing them out into the real world on unsupervised excursions for most of the term 4 double periods<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">:-)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- SD -<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Please let's sort out the strange attraction that the study design has for the physical layer of the OSI model. What is so magnetically attractive about that layer compared to the others, especially the more interesting higher layers?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- And what's with KK U3O1 KK04 - the OSI physical layer' connection to TCP/IP? AFAIK there is no connection. TCP/IP has its own parallel version of the OSI layers. Kevork may be able to help me better understand this baffling key knowledge.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- I'd like to see linked lists added to data structures.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Let's remove laptops from the list of allowed "mobile devices". They are certainly not retarded computers any more. Mine is more powerful than my desktop!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Let's also remove "gaming consoles". If it's meant to refer to handheld games, say so. Otherwise it infers that Xboxes are "mobile computing devices", which their cables certainly argue against!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Completely new fields of IT -<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Most of my suggestions have been mere tinkering with what is already in the study design. What important fields are unrepresented or under-represented in the current study design? Perhaps...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- 3D printing<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Data centres<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Social/psychological implications of omnipresent computing and communication facilities on children, students, workers, and governments.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">e.g. how many of the political revolutions in 2012 were incited and coordinated by social media?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Privacy in the digital age<u></u><u></u></span></p><p>
<span lang="EN-US">- Changing attitudes to information ownership - open source software, "acceptable piracy", Megaupload, Creative Commons, CopyLeft, GNU licences, Facebook privacy settings, Anonymous, Wikileaks, jailbreaking/unlocking (recently outlawed in USA) etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">- Artificial intelligence, e.g. IBM's Watson, Amazon's suggested buys, Siri, human/computer interfacing (e.g. Google glasses)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">- Changes in computing paradigms - mainframes/dumb terminals > smart standalones > cloud/dumb browsers.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">Over to you guys. The beach is calling me...<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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