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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 17 August 2012 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] List of Places to buy SD Practice Exams<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Sorry - my cranial OS crashed. <br>
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QATs are ITA only, not SD. <br>
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Sorry 'bout that!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 17 August 2012 10:16, Ben Hines <<a href="mailto:b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">b.hines@ccg.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 14 August 2012 1:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] List of Places to buy SD Practice Exams</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">- Insight is
<b>not</b> producing new ITA or SD papers.<br>
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- CSE and QATS do ITA and SD papers.<br>
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- From memory, TSSM do ITA but not SD... I have never seen a paper from them so I can't comment on their quality or value.<br>
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- The ones who were Chemistry Associates (whose new name I cannot recall - Kilbana??) do an ITA paper, I think. Several years ago I was stunned by the awfulness of one of their papers and have not returned... but this must have changed since then, so don't
let me put you off.<br>
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- I've ordered the 2012 VITTA SD papers and hope like mad that they're good. <br>
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I also hope that VITTA considers my constructive suggestions and debugs the 2011 papers before continuing to sell them as-is.
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I was <b>never</b> aiming to embarrass VITTA or the exams' authors (whose identity I do not know), but knowing that many people will be using these papers with their kids really soon spurred me to urgently raise some valid issues that teachers might not have
noticed. <br>
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I know I made many posts (apologies for the flood), but many issues needed to be raised. It's odd however that there has been absolutely no response to them. I can't believe that you guys either agree with everything I've said, or are so stunned by my stupidity
that you cannot bear to dignify them with a reply. There are several questions I really want to find answers for, particularly regarding the depth of knowledge required by some questions. I'd like to know if I really need to cover some points more deeply
with my kids - really soon!<br>
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I apologise if the exams' authors were offended by any post I've made recently. That was certainly not my intention. I strove to keep my comments factual and based purely on the questions, not on the people associated with them. Writing exams is an onerous
art, and I am rarely 100% satisfied with mine even after four edits, and I do appreciate constructive feedback that helps me write better papers in future.<br>
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I don't know if VITTA's feelings are hurt, but a professional organisation should not have feelings to be hurt. They do, however, have an obligation to their paying customers to take on valid and well-intended criticism to improve the quality of their commercial
products.<br>
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Regards<br>
Mark<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 14 August 2012 12:52, Andrew Shortell <<a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net" target="_blank">shortell@get2me.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Also Insight SRC does practice exams<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Be careful on vcaa web site that you use ones relevent to
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 14/08/2012, at 12:16 PM, Kent Beveridge <<a href="mailto:kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kbeveridge@stbc.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">VITTA has some...but looks like a few bugs there judging by all the lister feedback recently.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Also, grab past exams from the VCAA site(for IT in SD) together with the examiner reports...thats what I do every
week with my lot.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">sofdev@edulists.com.au</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] List of Places to buy SD Practice Exams</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We are teaching SD for the first time at CCG. Just wondering who out there makes practice Exams and where would
I get them from?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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