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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#993366'>Fascinating stuff Calum. Thanks
for the information and links.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:22.0pt;font-family:"Buxton Sketch";
color:#244061'>Laurie Savage<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#595959'>ICT Teacher | Student Assessment
and Reporting Coordinator |Pascoe Vale Girls College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#595959'>Lake Ave, Pascoe Vale | 03 9306
2544 | savage.john.l@edumail.vic.gov.au<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Calum Munro<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 29 May 2012 3:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] iOS/Android Dev<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I will be throwing my hat
(mostly) onto the Android Platform. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I do feel strongly that we
should all be developing Units/Courses in IT aimed at mobile technologies, iOS
and Android.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Why Android for me?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t have any
background in Apple/iOS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>More customisable
devices, more Open platform<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Android devices are
cheaper (Kogan 10” tablet $179 announced this week)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>From what I have
seen, better options for teaching – by better I mean easier – most of the iOS
options are beyond my skill set<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Teaching resources
and materials being developed for education (see attachments)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>My own (limited)
background is in Visual Basic, which we use in Software Development VCE. There
is a clear progression for me from Scratch, to App Inventor, to <a
href="http://www.basic4ppc.com/">Basic4Android</a> to VB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’m sure that other
teachers/schools will favour iOS as their development platform, but Android
seems to be a better choice for me at the moment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The files I have attached are
from </span><a href="http://www.computingatschool.org.uk/">http://www.computingatschool.org.uk/</a>
<span style='color:#1F497D'>The URL says it all. I stumbled upon it this
afternoon while looking for info on Raspberry Pi …. But that’s another story<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Calum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevork KROZIAN<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 28 May 2012 12:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] iOS/Android Dev<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi James,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> This is great to allow students access to
creating an app as you say in 20 mins.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The issue for us as IT teachers is at what level do we
regard a GUI type of app creation as a skill set as opposed to coding or a
combination of coding and GUI ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> What are the transferable skills we are trying to
teach ? where does it fit ? Yr 7 ? 8 ? 12 ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Which vels standards or VCE IT key knowledge/ skills
does it map to ? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Back to the HTML in notepad vs wisiwyg discussion/argument.
???<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I would like to see a combination of these tools and coding.
Eg. App inventor has a great interface for Android app creation, and in
addition there is work towards creating an interface to show the java code
generated by the block building actions on the GUI.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> I can see a storm brewing .......<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <br>
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Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 28/05/2012, at 9:56 AM, "Vella, James" <<a
href="mailto:jvella@mackillop.vic.edu.au">jvella@mackillop.vic.edu.au</a>>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><a name="_MailEndCompose">Hi everyone</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.ibuildapp.com">www.ibuildapp.com</a>
allows you to create free web apps for use with iPod/iPad/iPhone…and these
basic apps can be created in no more than around 20 mins.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I won’t take the credit for it though because it was
pointed out to me at ICTEV2012 on Saturday by a young chap by the name of
Jarrod Robinson along with a number of other free and easy to use app builders.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>There’s no programming involved what so ever…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b> </b><b><span style='font-size:15.0pt;color:#C00000'>Mr
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:green'>Associate Head of Technology - ICT</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:green'>Mathematics/IT Teacher</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:green'>MacKillop College</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:green'>Russell Street Werribee, VIC 3030</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:blue'>jvella</span></u></i></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
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target="_blank" title="http://www.mackillop.vic.edu.au/"><i><span
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<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
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Subject: sofdev Digest, Vol 86, Issue 74</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText> 1. Re: iOS online community is up and
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 08:43:31 +1000<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>From: "Kevork Krozian" <<a
href="mailto:kevork@edulists.com.au">kevork@edulists.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] iOS online community is up
and running<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Your iOS online community is up and running . Subscribe
the usual way through <a href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><span
style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.edulists.com.au</span></a> ,
subscribe, select iOS and fill in the form. A confirmation email will require a
final click and you will be subscribed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Enjoy <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Kevork Krozian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>tel: 0419 356 034<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
<a href="mailto:[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>On Behalf Of Andrew Shortell<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2012 10:28 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>hi Kevork and all<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Mobile OS ? Because I am in an iPad community I am
in favour of iOS --> Last year at Swinburne I did an android OS half day and
it was good (scratch like interface)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>If you make separate ones then I will go with both<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Today at ICTEV conf the "killer Phrase" for me
was 1:1 Self directed learning both at school and out of school<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>effectively it is all about students learning and
teachers learning - not teachers being oracles. There was a lot today
about peer tutoring (teachers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>->teachers, students - > students and
students to teachers)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Who controls what we learn, what students learn -->
the learners. we can try to control what we tell them but with 1:1 they
can control what they learn, when they learn and why they learn.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>So with iOS (& Android) we can help them to learn how
to make apps that they can use to help others learn and help others with
learning.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>With Unity they can make games etc that they can export
to iOS, Android and web base apps<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Today I saw a web base app system , online systems to
build simple apps and they are easy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>e.g. <a href="http://ibuildapp.com">ibuildapp.com</a>,
<a href="http://www.buzztouch.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:
none'>www.buzztouch.com</span></a> and others<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Apparently there is also red foundry .com - uses
code pieces to create apps, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>I am also excited about xcode but.... (if you have
looked at coding in Unity it is not simple but yr 7 students apparently can use
the jigsaw<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>approach)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>This year NONE of my VCE students have printed in the
classroom. They have iPads, can pdf stuff, upload to dropbox, share it with me,
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>the old fashioned ones even email me sometimes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>They have insisted on a facebook page (because they are
used to it --> I Use email to keep up with the facebook)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>People want to learn --> let's help them to do it and
help them to extend them selves and hopefully they will carry us along with
them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>(still buzzing form the conference)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Andrew Shortell<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>CRC Melton<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:shortell@get2me.net"><span
style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>shortell@get2me.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>On 26/05/2012, at 6:34 PM, Kevork Krozian wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Hi again Trav,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText> I think all our efforts to bring xcode
to students will be worthwhile.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I don't mean to favour one platform over another but to
relay some experiences. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I am about to get a separate IOS on line community (
mailing list ) set up to start building our obviously huge interest and passion
for mobile technologies. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I had a colleague ask me 3 years ago what I thought
elearning would look like in the near future and my response was "
interactive digital mobile learning". <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>This will be true of all learning inevitably. To be
clear, we are looking at the use of these technologies, but
influencing/creating the content that is built on/in/with them.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>My students in Yr 12 don't really understand what paper
is anymore. Only under extreme duress do they draw a UCD or DFD on paper and
then capture an image to put into their documents.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Most want to simply use gliffy or other software package
and feel it is a natural part of the learning to master this tool to then
answer questions about an SRS or sample SAC or learning activity.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I am about to get a separate IOS on line community (
mailing list ) happening to start building our obviously huge interest and passion
for mobile technologies. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>At this stage which communities ( forums, mailing lists )
do people think we need ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>1. iphone, ipad or just IOS ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>2. Android ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>3. Windows Phone ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>4. Games for learning with mobile apps ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>5. Mobile learning ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Others ??<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Kind Regards <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Kevork Krozian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Edulists Creator Administrator<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><span
style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.edulists.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>tel: 0419 356 034<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
<a href="mailto:[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Saturday, 26 May 2012 1:36 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for
the x-posts!)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Trav,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Yes, the investment is not lost on me. I just hope
xcode is not a negative experience for teachers and students due to its
difficulties.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I say this because I have taught XNA/Visual C# to Yr 9
and 10 for more than<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>3 years and most struggled. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Keep well <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Kevork Krozian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Edulists Creator Administrator<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au"><span
style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.edulists.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>tel: 0419 356 034<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>
<a href="mailto:[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>On Behalf Of Travis Parker<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:57 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for
the x-posts!)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Kevork,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>The thing with Adrian (And myself) is that our schools
have invested a large amount of time and money into iPad programs and I checked
out appinventor and it seems that they only export to android devices?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>There seems to be a text on "App inventing for
iPhones" by Graeme Summers that I am ordering (Thanks Adrian) and a few of
us are trying to organise a new year 10 iOS app development course. If anyone
is interested please speak up!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Trav<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a>
On Behalf Of Kevork Krozian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:14 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for
the x-posts!)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Adrian,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText> This is all very useful to all of our colleagues.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I recently completed an Android app writing PD at
Swinburne Uni Hawthorn using appinventor ( see <a href="http://appinventor.org">appinventor.org</a>
) and found it very powerful and effortless in transferring to a phone or
sharing with other phones. For those who don't have a phone an emulator will
still allow testing of the app on Mac or PC. The resources (software,
textbooks, completed apps ) are free online. The programming environment is a
"scratch" type with no actual coding but a GUI to connect objects,
add methods, change properties and parameters. This would translate to a Yr 8
to 10 course so much more easily than say writing code in XNA or in Objective C
I feel.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>There are sections on using multi dimensional arrays,
saving to a database and much more. Is it starting to look like it could slot
into Software Development as a language ? Of course the coding would have to be
done in Java for it to be acceptable. There are efforts to provide a java view
of the Appinventor GUI see <a href="http://www.appinventor.org/roadmap"><span
style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.appinventor.org/roadmap</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>but that would need to be clarified for Units 3 and 4
Software Development purposes.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText> An equally useful discussion would be to
compare the competing app writing and programming options. eg. Cost of
registering as a devloper ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>How much will students understand when writing code in a
language like Objective C or C# for that matter ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> One of the most useful apps in this series I
worked on was "Find my car"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>which allows recording of the current location using the
GPS feature in the phone and then after moving to another location requesting a
map showing how to find the car again. This interfaced with a voice feature
where instructions are announced on how to find your way back to the car or if
they are in the same spot, the family members you may have lost ......<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText> All very exciting ...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Keep well<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Kevork<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Travis,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Apologies for the previous email - I have just
transitioned to a new <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>notebook and I had not set up my email signature yet!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>I also hope I didn't get your hopes up! - basically what
I wanted to <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>say is that I have been teaching myself x-code / objective
c this year<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 1:56 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the
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<p class=MsoPlainText>year that will run for a semester. We have also got a lab
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