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<p>I am sure my boss would be happy to let me come to Melbourne for a day to be part of this course/collaboration. Feels like we are on a 'freight train' of an idea just now. Or perhaps we could do some planning for this on a weekend or Sat morning sesssion
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<p>We could discuss say...</p>
<p>Apps 'out there' already;</p>
<p>Android vs iOS vs others.... as platforms for portable device developments...;</p>
<p>Hardware people/schools use;</p>
<p>Samples of Apps if some have been x-coded to share;</p>
<p>Some sample teaching materials(i have the materials from the iOS course from Swinny for example includes screen casts and some pdf's/ppts)...could share these maybe?</p>
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<p>WARNING...x-code IS a big learning curve item! </p>
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<p>just some ideas to put 'out there' as a beginning point kiddies....</p>
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<p>KB.</p>
<p>are we seeing the beginnings of a new era here??????? (or just a big green monster!)</p>
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<div>me too
<div>Maybe we could organise a group collaboration on creating a course and then all run it in our schools, feedback to each other and create apps we could all use!!</div>
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<div>I would be happy to organise the collaboration if necessary - this woudl be an exciting project "going forward"</div>
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On 23/05/2012, at 12:18 PM, "Travis Parker" <<a href="mailto:Travis.Parker@beaconhills.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">Travis.Parker@beaconhills.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">The thing with Adrian (And myself) is that our schools have invested a<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">There seems to be a text on "App inventing for iPhones" by Graeme<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Summers that I am ordering (Thanks Adrian) and a few of us are trying to<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:14 AM<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] App development Sorry for the x-posts!)<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi Adrian,<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> This is all very useful to all of our colleagues.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I recently completed an Android app writing PD at Swinburne Uni Hawthorn<br>
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appinventor.org</a> ) and found it very powerful and<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">properties and parameters. This would translate to a Yr 8 to 10 course<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">so much more easily than say writing code in XNA or in Objective C I<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">There are sections on using multi dimensional arrays, saving to a<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">but that would need to be clarified for Units 3 and 4 Software<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> An equally useful discussion would be to compare the competing app<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> One of the most useful apps in this series I worked on was "Find my<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> All very exciting ...<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Keep well<br>
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