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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>He isn’t right up the top of my rankings as he received poor marks for U3O1 and U4O2, however it’s sad to see these excellent programmers receive poor marks in a Software Development course. On the flip side, my top ranked student is quite an average programmer however is a great writer and really good at integrating case studies into his answers etc, so students like him are advantaged by the structure of the course I suppose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>And yes, his handwriting is APPALLING!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Trav<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Janson<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 4 November 2011 9:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Student ranking query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Travis,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You have described half of my cohort!!! Actually – they tend not to be quite as extreme as this for me – but I do have 1 or 2 like this every year. Unfortunately, in my experience, they do very badly. (and by badly – I mean “not as good as they should”) and I think that doing a written exam for these types of students is their Achilles heel. Often I find that their handwriting is very hard to understand too (for a double whammy!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060'>Adrian Janson </span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060'>B.Sc, Dip.Ed, M.Ed<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#002060'>Director of ICT<br></span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#244061'>Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill, South Yarra, Victoria 3141 Australia.<br>Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<br>Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<br>E-mail: <a href="janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#244061'>Website: <a href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#244061'>Blog: <a href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/" target="_blank">http://jansona.edublogs.org</a></span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]">[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Travis Parker<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 4 November 2011 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Student ranking query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In my short teaching career I have taught year 12 Business Management, IT Apps, Cert III Multimedia and this is my first year of teaching Software Development. I have a student that is really concerning me about his performance and I’m sure some of you must have come across this situation before. He is a brilliant programmer – He basically goes home and that’s all he does. He has a website that he has uploaded some games that he has developed to and has even linked in an online high scores table. He has attended most of the Uni courses in holiday periods plus completed a few night courses. He is the only student all year to comprehensively fulfil all of the criteria of the applications in U3O2 and U4O1. However, English is his worst subject. He can’t put pen to paper and has recently sat one of the practice exams for me (The Insight one) and got 7/88, 6 of which were from multiple choice. His comprehension is shocking even though practically he can easily apply things like 2D arrays, quick sorts, binary searches, stacks, queues, etc. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My question is this – How are these type of students treated in the final results? This must be the hardest subject to have rankings in because you give students fair marks for their programs but it doesn’t mean that they can sit down and write about it in a final exam. For example, in Business Management all SACs were tests as was the final exam which made for consistent rankings, however much of the SAC marks this year were for programming skills and their application, but the exam is written.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone had a student like this before??????<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Good luck to all in the exam!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Trav<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy"'>Travis Parker<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Head of ICT<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Beaconhills College Pakenham<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>(</span></b><span style='color:black'> 03 5945 3016<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><b>Important - </b>This email and any attachments may be confidential. 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