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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">As Claudia and you have correctly stated, students are required to create user documentation, using software, and explain security and
legal matters in one of two forms: report or test. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 30 June 2011 10:56 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Yes, the wording in the design is not the best. As I see it, task 2 as having two things to do...<br>
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Thing 1 - User documentation, produced with software.<br>
Thing 2 - An explanation of security and legal matters in the form of a test or written report.<br>
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The User Documentation has nothing to do with the test/report format - how <b><span style="font-weight:bold">could</span></b> you create user documentation as a test??<br>
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Cheers<br>
Mark<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">On 29 June 2011 14:16, Claudia Graham <<a href="mailto:claudia.graham@overnewton.vic.edu.au">claudia.graham@overnewton.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D">Just a clarification, there is still an expectation that user documentation
is created and software is used to create it. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D">This appears in KK for the outcome and in the assessment guide. It is also
on pg. 45 where it indicates the software tools to be used for each outcome.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D">You could not just ask test questions about user documentation.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D">I do agree though that you would not be spending too much time on it, as you
do need to think of the weighting of marks across the assessment tool.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D">Claudia</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:maroon">*********************************************************************</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">
<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Matheson, Heath A<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 12:54 PM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:#1F497D">Hi Juliana,
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D">The user documentation component is task 2 of the outcome. This is stated as
needing to be a test or written report and only worth 15 out of the 60 marks so should be much faster to complete than task 1 . I think most will do a test as the more exam type practise students get the better, and tests are easy to correct and out of the
way in one class. This report/test also needs to cover security and legal issues such copyright, privacy acts etc. For task 1 (the program) only internal documentation is required.
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<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Juliana Pang<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:16 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D">Well Mark said we still need the input form, and the validation for that as
well. Would that be enough scope then?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D">It’s much nicer to use a 2D array and text file then when we tried to connect
an Access database to the VB front end previously. That was messy and huge.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D">What are you all using for the user documentation? Is it suffice to ask students
to make a simple “online help” website using Dreamweaver? In previous years I have asked them to compile the help file webpages using HTML help or something like that, created an index, and produced a .chm file. That was an overhead and students ended up spending
more than the 10 periods allocated for U4O1. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">
<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 9:12 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
color:black">Is this all that's needed for the solution to this outcome? Seems 'not much' given what my background is..(I kinda expected 'pages' of code compared to this...).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
color:black"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
color:black">Or do I just set the bar too high???</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
color:black"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
color:black">btw...I like the code Juliana has produced..nice! Its even in VB which makes(for me) it even better...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
color:black"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
color:black">I knew jumping on this list would reveal some gems! I look forward to sharing when I make my own...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Kent</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font size="2" color="black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#3366FF">ICT Co-ordinator, St.Brigids CSC, HORSHAM,Vic,Aus.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:black;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">
<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] on behalf of Juliana Pang [<a href="mailto:pang.juliana.c@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">pang.juliana.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>]<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 28 June 2011 2:47 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">Thanks for the task Mark – it’s been pretty interesting and I have gotten my students
to start working on this. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">I have created a sample solution, it’s little different to yours as I asked the
students to make the text file as: </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">Alex,56,45,78</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">Beth,100,98,95</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">Colin,56,79,82</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">Darcy,97,89,60</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">Egbert,62,71,62</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">So the records are going sideways and the scores are already percentages.
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">There’s no input forms yet on mine for the teacher to add more students.
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black">By the way, for the actual U4O1 task, do we need some sort of input form where students
will write to a text file, as they are marked on validation techniques?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
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<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">20 George Street East</span></font></st1:Street>
<st1:City w:st="on">Doncaster</st1:City> <st1:State w:st="on">Victoria</st1:State></st1:address> 3109
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<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">p: +61 3 9842 2244 f: +61 3 9841 8010<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">w: <a href="http://www.eastdonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">
www.eastdonsc.vic.edu.au</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">e: <a href="mailto:pang.juliana.c@edumail.vic.gov.au" target="_blank">
pang.juliana.c@edumail.vic.gov.au</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font color="black"><span style="color:black">
<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 28 June 2011 9:27 AM<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 27 June 2011 6:17 PM<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Attached is a VB 2010 solution to the class data task for U4O1 that I upped earlier. It contains sample code, screenshot of the form, and a text data file.<br>
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