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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks Claudia,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have switched from IT Apps to SD this year,.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Last year in Year IT Apps .... Unit 4 .... Outcome 2. .... Students had to create online user documentation. My Students used Camstudio to create video tutorials
and save in a format that could be viewed after clicking on a hyperlink in the spreadsheet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I thought I could do the same with a visual basic form with a button instead of a hyperlink. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I thought students could elect to do either a word document or a video tutorial.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ken Bell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Claudia Graham<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 June 2011 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] User Documentation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Ken,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The area of study mentions ‘preparing user documentation’, the KK16 mentions printed, online, content sensitive and manuals, KS5 is the only place it directly mentions ‘write’
user documentation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The assessment guide states ‘develop user documentation that is appropriate for the intended use and audience of the software solution’, and ‘User documentation is appropriate, logically sequenced,
complete and accurate. Presentation is clear and consistent with generally accepted conventions’<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="NormalBullet" style="mso-margin-top-alt:2.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:0cm;mso-list:none">
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="NormalBullet" style="mso-margin-top-alt:2.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:0cm;mso-list:none">
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">So it reads like the appropriateness/content (for intended use – based on design brief) of the user doc is important and that it meets accepted conventions (for the type of user documentation being
produced). However, the time factor would be important for me, creating a multimedia/movie vs a word document, I know which I’d choose for my class.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Claudia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:maroon">*********************************************************************</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:maroon">Claudia Graham</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:maroon">VCE Coordinator</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:maroon">9334 0049 (direct)</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bell, Kenneth C<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 30 June 2011 9:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Claudia and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Page 45 does not specifically say what software so I would like to ask this question about creating user documentation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Last night, I created a Multimedia Player form (Program 20 from Adrian Barnes Visual Bais.NET for Education book).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I then created a main form to load this Multimedia Player form when a button is pressed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My question is this.
</span><b><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">“Can the User Documentation be in the form on an online video which you watch or does it have to be something that has to be read?”<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ken Bell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mortlake College<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(1sr year at Software development)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Claudia Graham<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 2:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just a clarification, there is still an expectation that user documentation is created and software is used to create it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This appears in KK for the outcome and in the assessment guide. It is also on pg. 45 where it indicates the software tools to be used for each outcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You could not just ask test questions about user documentation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I do agree though that you would not be spending too much time on it, as you do need to think of the weighting of marks across the assessment tool.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Claudia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matheson, Heath A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 12:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Juliana,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The user documentation component is task 2 of the outcome. This is stated as needing to be a test or written report and only worth 15 out of the 60 marks so
should be much faster to complete than task 1 . I think most will do a test as the more exam type practise students get the better, and tests are easy to correct and out of the way in one class. This report/test also needs to cover security and legal issues
such copyright, privacy acts etc. For task 1 (the program) only internal documentation is required.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Juliana Pang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Well Mark said we still need the input form, and the validation for that as well. Would that be enough scope then?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s much nicer to use a 2D array and text file then when we tried to connect an Access database to the VB front end previously. That was messy and huge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What are you all using for the user documentation? Is it suffice to ask students to make a simple “online help” website using Dreamweaver? In previous years
I have asked them to compile the help file webpages using HTML help or something like that, created an index, and produced a .chm file. That was an overhead and students ended up spending more than the 10 periods allocated for U4O1.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 9:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Is this all that's needed for the solution to this outcome? Seems 'not much' given what my background is..(I kinda expected 'pages' of code compared to this...).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Or do I just set the bar too high???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">btw...I like the code Juliana has produced..nice! Its even in VB which makes(for me) it even better...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">I knew jumping on this list would reveal some gems! I look forward to sharing when I make my own...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Juliana Pang [pang.juliana.c@edumail.vic.gov.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 June 2011 2:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks for the task Mark – it’s been pretty interesting and I have gotten my students to start working on this.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I have created a sample solution, it’s little different to yours as I asked the students to make the text file as:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alex,56,45,78<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Beth,100,98,95<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Colin,56,79,82<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Darcy,97,89,60<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Egbert,62,71,62<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">So the records are going sideways and the scores are already percentages.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">There’s no input forms yet on mine for the teacher to add more students.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">By the way, for the actual U4O1 task, do we need some sort of input form where students will write to a text file, as they are marked on validation techniques?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 June 2011 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Leather trumpets and Camels????<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Man, this is an odd one! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">KB.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Kent Beveridge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Mark KELLY [kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 27 June 2011 6:17 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Where's my speaking trumpet? Hello folks. Calling folks.<br>
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Attached is a VB 2010 solution to the class data task for U4O1 that I upped earlier. It contains sample code, screenshot of the form, and a text data file.<br>
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May your camels be bountiful, but not too cute: that way madness lies.<br clear="all">
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Mark<br>
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