Yes, the wording in the design is not the best. As I see it, task 2 as having two things to do...<br><br>Thing 1 - User documentation, produced with software.<br>Thing 2 - An explanation of security and legal matters in the form of a test or written report.<br>
<br>The User Documentation has nothing to do with the test/report format - how <b>could</b> you create user documentation as a test??<br><br>Cheers<br>Mark<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 June 2011 14:16, Claudia Graham <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:claudia.graham@overnewton.vic.edu.au">claudia.graham@overnewton.vic.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just a clarification, there is still an expectation that user documentation is created and software is used to create it. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">This appears in KK for the outcome and in the assessment guide. It is also on pg. 45 where it indicates the software tools to be used for each outcome.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">You could not just ask test questions about user documentation.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I do agree though that you would not be spending too much time on it, as you do need to think of the weighting of marks across the assessment tool.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The user documentation component is task 2 of the outcome. This is stated as needing to be a test or written report and only worth 15 out of the 60 marks so
should be much faster to complete than task 1 . I think most will do a test as the more exam type practise students get the better, and tests are easy to correct and out of the way in one class. This report/test also needs to cover security and legal issues
such copyright, privacy acts etc. For task 1 (the program) only internal documentation is required.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Juliana Pang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:16 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Well Mark said we still need the input form, and the validation for that as well. Would that be enough scope then?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">It’s much nicer to use a 2D array and text file then when we tried to connect an Access database to the VB front end previously. That was messy and huge.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">What are you all using for the user documentation? Is it suffice to ask students to make a simple “online help” website using Dreamweaver? In previous years
I have asked them to compile the help file webpages using HTML help or something like that, created an index, and produced a .chm file. That was an overhead and students ended up spending more than the 10 periods allocated for U4O1.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Is this all that's needed for the solution to this outcome? Seems 'not much' given what my background is..(I kinda expected 'pages' of code compared to this...).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Or do I just set the bar too high???<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">btw...I like the code Juliana has produced..nice! Its even in VB which makes(for me) it even better...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">I knew jumping on this list would reveal some gems! I look forward to sharing when I make my own...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 June 2011 2:47 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks for the task Mark – it’s been pretty interesting and I have gotten my students to start working on this.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I have created a sample solution, it’s little different to yours as I asked the students to make the text file as:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alex,56,45,78<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Beth,100,98,95<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">So the records are going sideways and the scores are already percentages.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">There’s no input forms yet on mine for the teacher to add more students.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">By the way, for the actual U4O1 task, do we need some sort of input form where students will write to a text file, as they are marked on validation techniques?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Man, this is an odd one! <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 27 June 2011 6:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Where's my speaking trumpet? Hello folks. Calling folks.<br>
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Attached is a VB 2010 solution to the class data task for U4O1 that I upped earlier. It contains sample code, screenshot of the form, and a text data file.<br>
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