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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The user documentation component is task 2 of the outcome. This is stated as needing to be a test or written report and only worth 15 out of the 60 marks so
should be much faster to complete than task 1 . I think most will do a test as the more exam type practise students get the better, and tests are easy to correct and out of the way in one class. This report/test also needs to cover security and legal issues
such copyright, privacy acts etc. For task 1 (the program) only internal documentation is required.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Juliana Pang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Well Mark said we still need the input form, and the validation for that as well. Would that be enough scope then?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s much nicer to use a 2D array and text file then when we tried to connect an Access database to the VB front end previously. That was messy and huge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">What are you all using for the user documentation? Is it suffice to ask students to make a simple “online help” website using Dreamweaver? In previous years
I have asked them to compile the help file webpages using HTML help or something like that, created an index, and produced a .chm file. That was an overhead and students ended up spending more than the 10 periods allocated for U4O1.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 29 June 2011 9:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Is this all that's needed for the solution to this outcome? Seems 'not much' given what my background is..(I kinda expected 'pages' of code compared to this...).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Or do I just set the bar too high???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">btw...I like the code Juliana has produced..nice! Its even in VB which makes(for me) it even better...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">I knew jumping on this list would reveal some gems! I look forward to sharing when I make my own...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
on behalf of Juliana Pang [pang.juliana.c@edumail.vic.gov.au]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 June 2011 2:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks for the task Mark – it’s been pretty interesting and I have gotten my students to start working on this.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I have created a sample solution, it’s little different to yours as I asked the students to make the text file as:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alex,56,45,78<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Beth,100,98,95<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Colin,56,79,82<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Darcy,97,89,60<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Egbert,62,71,62<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">So the records are going sideways and the scores are already percentages.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">There’s no input forms yet on mine for the teacher to add more students.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">By the way, for the actual U4O1 task, do we need some sort of input form where students will write to a text file, as they are marked on validation techniques?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Beveridge<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 June 2011 9:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U4O1 practice - Class Data task solution<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">Leather trumpets and Camels????<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Man, this is an odd one! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">KB.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] on behalf of Mark KELLY [kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au]<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Where's my speaking trumpet? Hello folks. Calling folks.<br>
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Attached is a VB 2010 solution to the class data task for U4O1 that I upped earlier. It contains sample code, screenshot of the form, and a text data file.<br>
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May your camels be bountiful, but not too cute: that way madness lies.<br clear="all">
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Mark<br>
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Mark Kelly<br>
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
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