Well, you <i>could</i> but you'd have PSV (pipe separated values) instead of CSV :-)<br><br>Most generic textual data is CSV (with double quotes)... I don't know why VB can't accommodate them, even as an option.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 May 2011 15:31, Margaret King Iaquinto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:iaquinto@ozemail.com.au">iaquinto@ozemail.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Can you use the pipe symbol (|) as a delimiter in VBNEB? In PHP that works. Then the other commas don't get in the way.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="12fe2b6e84773b57__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">No, I can’t seem to find a way to do that, but as a
<span style="text-decoration:underline">very dodgy</span> workaround, edit the CSV file so that there’s a double comma separating each item and split on that, then you can keep a single comma inside some text</span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">1,,WE RUN THE NIGHT,,DJ Havana, Brown,,ISL/UMA</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:blue">Dim</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Consolas"> Values()
<span style="color:blue">As</span> <span style="color:blue">String</span> = Split(strAlbumName,
<span style="color:#A31515">","</span>)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Would split everything
normally and allow a comma between Havana and Brown. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I've just tested it, and Split() does not honour quotation marks: it reads them in with the rest of the text.
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So if a data item contained a comma, it would be seen as a delimiter :-(</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12 May 2011 09:37, ATKINSON-BUCK, Damien <<a>Damien.ATKINSON-BUCK@ivanhoe.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="12fe2b6e84773b57_12fe171392d168f9__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mark, thanks for another great tutorial. Building on Marks work might be what you need Trav</span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">One of the more common uses of reading a text file is to read various values of a CSV (comma separated values) file, where individual items (think
fields of a flat file database) are read into an array for future processing. Visual Basic has a very nice easy way to do this using the Split function. Imagine that you have the above text file with the following data copied from this week’s Aria charts;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">1,WE RUN THE NIGHT,DJ Havana Brown,ISL/UMA</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">2,FROM THE MUSIC,The Potbelleez,VIC/UMA</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">4,DANCE WITH ME,Justice Crew Feat. Flo Rida,SME</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">5,FRIDAY TO SUNDAY,Justice Crew,SME</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">6,MAYBE,Sick Puppies,VIR/EMI</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Consolas"> <span style="color:blue">
Dim</span> TextFile <span style="color:blue">As</span> <span style="color:blue">New</span> System.IO.StreamReader(<span style="color:#A31515">"</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">u:\albums.txt</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#A31515">
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Consolas"> <span style="color:blue">
Do</span> <span style="color:blue">Until</span> strAlbumName <span style="color:blue">
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Consolas"> <span style="color:green">
'lstAlbums.Items.Add(strAlbumName)</span></span></p>
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Dim</span> Values() <span style="color:blue">As</span> <span style="color:blue">String</span> = Split(strAlbumName,
<span style="color:#A31515">","</span>)</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Consolas"> strAlbumName = TextFile.ReadLine()</span></p>
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' Values(0) now contains first column value,</span></span></p>
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' Values(1) contains second column, etc.</span></span></p>
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Loop</span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Consolas"> TextFile.Dispose()</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="http://myivanhoe.net/" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Subject:</span><span style="color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Reading and Writing text
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://myivanhoe.net/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none">Thanks for that Mark. I have been using
something similar with my students, particularly as the SAC I have written includes reading from a text file (A prototype helpdesk, including type of job, computer, priority, etc) and creating a new text file with jobs for the techies in a prioritised order.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></p>
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</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://myivanhoe.net/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none">One thing I was wondering though, does
anyone have anything good on reading comma separated text files? All the programs I have gotten my students to create read them a line at a time, but I would ideally like to see something like this line -
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">tim.cox, hardware, 12, ps40, 2
</span><span style="color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none">read into arrays. So I would have a “Name†, “Issue†, “Computer_Number†, “Room_Number†, “Priority†or something like that. I’m fine with the arrays, but how would I read it in word at a time (i.e. Between
commas†rather than line at a time?</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://myivanhoe.net/" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Hi, you paragons of pedagogy. I've been putting off teaching my kids how to
read and write text data files in VB but having investigated today, it's not really more difficult than the days of VB6 with OPEN "file" FOR INPUT AS 1 ... INPUT #1, data.<br>
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I've attached an adapted tutorial on reading and writing text files with a task involving reading and writing a preferences file (with solution).<br>
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Once your kids can do data files, it greatly opens the scope for populating and playing with really large arrays and makes loops meaningful.
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I remember how excited I was when I first discovered text files decades ago - it was like finding mum's car keys. My programming world blossomed from that point.<br clear="all">
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