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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Shane,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have just uploaded my U3O2 to my site – have a look at what I
have for a SRS (it is quite brief – and only needs to be this size). Giving
them the DFD or CD is ‘OK’ I guess, but I feel that these tools alone are
analysis tools and don’t say much about what the software solution has to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:#002060'>Adrian
Janson </span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#002060'>B.Sc, Dip.Ed,
M.Ed<br>
</span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#002060'>Director of ICT<br>
</span></b><span style='color:#244061'>Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill,
South Yarra, Victoria 3141 Australia.<br>
Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<br>
Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<br>
E-mail: <a href="janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>Website: <a
href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>Blog: <a
href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/" target="_blank">http://jansona.edublogs.org</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shane Dawson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 May 2011 2:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 module context diagram<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That seems to be the problem with this new course. I too
am struggling to produce an SRS for Outcome 2 that fits the criteria without
too much fiddling around.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have decided to just give them the actual CD/DFD just for the
module and not worry about what is happening out in the ‘real world’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Not enough thought has gone into what we are being asked to
present to students and I am assuming that there will be more changes occurring
after this year to get it right for next year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Some real actual Professional Development would have been good
as well, as most of Unit 3 Outcome 1 has never been covered before, unless you
have recently graduated from a Computer Science Course, and even talking to
them, they have said that some of it is second year coursework. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Shane Dawson</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Timetabler, Database and SIMON Administrator</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>St Joseph's
College Geelong</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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color:#1F497D'>135 Aphrasia Street Newtown Vic 3220<br>
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Fax: 03 5221 6983<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:shaned@sjc.vic.edu.au">shaned@sjc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
College Website: <a href="http://www.sjc.vic.edu.au/"
title="blocked::http://www.sjc.vic.edu.au/ http://www.sjc.vic.edu.au/">www.sjc.vic.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>compassion
innovation integrity</span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 May 2011 2:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] U3O2 module context diagram<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi all. I',m adapting the detailed example of SD U3O2 from
the study design for my own U3O2; I'm fiddling at the edges and not changing
the overall shape of the example where the task is to create a specific module
(cost calculator) in a larger ordering/accounting system that takes order data
from a corporate website.<br>
<br>
While getting into creating the SRS I thought the context diagram would be a
doddle. One external entity, the customer. The system in the
circle is the cost calculator module. One data flow from the
customer with order information. One data flow to the customer with the
invoice. Done.<br>
<br>
Then I realised that from the module's perspective the rest of the ordering
system might be seen as an external entity since the module has no control over
the system's operation but must exchange data with it.<br>
<br>
Then I realised that the system also would see the corporate website as an
external entity for similar reasons. So the customer would interact with the
website which would interact with the system, which would interact with the
module that the students will be writing.<br>
<br>
But if I showed the customer providing an order to the website, that would be a
data flow between external entities which we are not supposed to show in a
CD/DFD.<br>
<br>
How would you guys interpret a situation like this?<br clear=all>
<br>
-- <br>
Mark Kelly<br>
Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<br>
McKinnon Secondary College<br>
McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>
Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253<br>
<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br>
VCE IT Lecture Notes: <a href="http://vceit.com" target="_blank">http://vceit.com</a><br>
Moderator: IT Applications Edulist<br>
<br>
Want a good time? Call 0112358. Ask for Mr Fibonacci.<o:p></o:p></p>
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