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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Ben,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes you are correct in a way. When developing a solution for a mobile device you need to take into consideration in the theory component that mobile devices *<b>usually</b>* have<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Smaller screen resolution<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Slower network connection<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Slower CPU and less RAM than desktop<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>These are all being thrown out the window by 10” tablets running on Telstra 3G and when LTE comes out later this year. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I get students to develop a module of a larger system, the module might be a calculation/quote module which is part of a bigger inventory/sales system. My case studies say that the module is used by sales reps on the rd etc using an iPhone. We make webapps which look and feel like a native app. It allows for integration to the native Google Maps app, email app etc. Webapps however cannot access the camera.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So we have a php page which detects the browser and redirects accordingly. The “mobile” version is designed around sites such as Qantas.com on iPhone etc. I have attached a screen shot. We compare that to the full Qantas website and go from there. You can tell that my iPhone is with Optus!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you would a like a SAV and solution that will run on a server from last year, let me know and I can send out individually.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'>David Howard</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'><br></span><span 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href="http://www.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/">www.stmichaels.vic.edu.au</a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'><br></span><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'>CRICOS Provider</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'> 00345G</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'><br><img border=0 width=156 height=24 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CC0E5A.984E5E20" alt="https://www.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/layout/siglogo2.jpg"></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'><br><br><img border=0 width=34 height=32 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image004.jpg@01CC0E5A.984E5E20" alt="https://www.stmichaels.vic.edu.au/layout/siglogo3.jpg"><br></span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#2D72A3'>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><br><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Hines<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 May 2011 12:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Choosing a Programming langauge for SoftDev<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Another query on top of that, I’m a little confused about unit 4 outcome 1, “for use on a mobile device” – does that mean we produce a solution using our programming language as normal on computers, with the idea that the UI suits a mobile device.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Or does it actually have to be put on that mobile device in the end??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=216 height=92 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01CC0E59.E67B24D0" alt="Description: ben_sig"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Mr Ben Hines<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Maths/ICT Teacher<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>(</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>(03) 52411577 (ext. 212)</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Hines<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 May 2011 12:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> sofdev@edulists.com.au<br><b>Subject:</b> [Year 12 SofDev] Choosing a Programming langauge for SoftDev<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hey all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Just a quick query about choosing a programming language for Software Development:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have seen the list of languages that are approved for this year, will this change much for next year? (2011 is when we intend to start up software dev at our school).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>At the moment our school has Visual Studio 2005 (I think). It looks like the only language we can use from this is Visual Basic .NET?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Why can’t we use Visual C# - but we can use C#?????<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Our school is looking into the cost of starting Software Development, so any suggestions on cheaper options of languages that Schools are using this year would be much appreciated!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks so much for your help and time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=216 height=92 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CC0E59.E67B24D0" alt="Description: ben_sig"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Mr Ben Hines<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Maths/ICT Teacher<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Senior School Campus - Christian College Geelong<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>(</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>(03) 52411577 (ext. 212)</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.<br><a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au">http://www.mailguard.com.au</a><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.<br><a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au">http://www.mailguard.com.au</a><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>