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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>We have a fine community indeed!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 March 2011 8:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SD key knowledge<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Master? Hardly. I am paddling in the wading pool of technical knowledge compared to many people in this fine community.<br><br>The reason I don't have trouble dumbing-down IT technicalities for kids is because I don't actually know much about the technicalities myself. :-)<br><br>In a way that's good, because I have trouble avoiding going overboard when teaching topics I do know a lot about about. I'd start teaching how to use apostrophes and end up lecturing about the history of apostrophes during the English reformation.<br><br>Cheers<br>Mark<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11 March 2011 08:29, John Bellavance <<a href="mailto:John.Bellavance@beaconhills.vic.edu.au">John.Bellavance@beaconhills.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>You are the master, I am just starting on sharing resources.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Thank you for all the resources over the years!!!!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>John</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="12ea1ae4e387aaa3__MailEndCompose"><span style='color:black'> </span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 March 2011 8:14 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'><br><b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SD key knowledge</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Very thorough! Thanks, John.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 9 March 2011 15:40, John Bellavance <<a href="mailto:John.Bellavance@beaconhills.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">John.Bellavance@beaconhills.vic.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>I hope this helps!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>John Bellavance</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Beaconhills College</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="12ea1ae4e387aaa3_12e9a49198563530__MailE"><span style='color:black'> </span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au" target="_blank">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark KELLY</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 9 March 2011 1:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> [Year 12 SofDev] SD key knowledge</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i>SD U3O1 KK04<br>Purposes and functions of the physical layer (Layer 1) of the OSI and the relationship of the physical layer to the Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol model</i><br><br>For quite some time now I've been avoiding this KK because I'd rather clean a dead dog's ears than spend time on the OSI.<br><br>But in the end I had to find the cotton buds and get stuck in, and I think I have a reasonable overview of the OSI and how TCP/IP maps to it. (even produced a draft <a href="http://www.vceit.com/slideshows/SD-OSI.ppt" target="_blank">slideshow</a>).<br><br>But the second part of KK04 really has me baffled: <i>the relationship of the physical layer to the Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol model.</i><br>I know that TCP/IP's Network interface layer maps to OSI's physical layer (and the data link layer), but for the life of me I can't see how it's any more significant than any of OSI's or TCP/IP's other layers.<br><br>Can someone suggest why the relationship between the OSI physical layer and TCP/IP is so significant? <br>Has this relationship been in the papers? Has this physical relationship resulted in offspring?<br>Is Mr OSI going to be on Oprah... or the Jerry Springer show?<br><br>-- <br>Mark Kelly<br>Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<br>McKinnon Secondary College<br>McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253<br><a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br><br>VCE IT Lecture Notes: <a href="http://vceit.com" target="_blank">http://vceit.com</a><br>Moderator: IT Applications Edulist<br><br>All generalisations are false, except this one.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.edulists.com.au</a> - FAQ, Subscribe, Unsubscribe<br>IT Software Development Mailing List kindly supported by<br><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au</a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and<br><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html" target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html</a><br><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au" target="_blank">http://www.vitta.org.au</a> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Mark Kelly<br>Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<br>McKinnon Secondary College<br>McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253<br><a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br><br>VCE IT Lecture Notes: <a href="http://vceit.com" target="_blank">http://vceit.com</a><br>Moderator: IT Applications Edulist<br><br>All generalisations are false, except this one.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br><a href="http://www.edulists.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.edulists.com.au</a> - FAQ, Subscribe, Unsubscribe<br>IT Software Development Mailing List kindly supported by<br><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au</a> - Victorian Curriculum and Assessment Authority and<br><a href="http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html" target="_blank">http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/infotech/softwaredevel3-4.html</a><br><a href="http://www.vitta.org.au" target="_blank">http://www.vitta.org.au</a> - VITTA Victorian Information Technology Teachers Association Inc<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Mark Kelly<br>Manager of ICT, Reporting, IT Learning Area<br>McKinnon Secondary College<br>McKinnon Rd McKinnon 3204, Victoria, Australia<br>Direct line / Voicemail: +613 8520 9085, Fax +613 9578 9253<br><a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au" target="_blank">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a><br><br>VCE IT Lecture Notes: <a href="http://vceit.com" target="_blank">http://vceit.com</a><br>Moderator: IT Applications Edulist<br><br>All generalisations are false, except this one.<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>