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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi John and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John – the bulletin does not mention ‘tables’, ‘sets’ or ‘lists’
nor does the study design. The text of the bulletin is shown below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:160%'><a name=H3N100B3><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:
160%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Approved programming languages for the
accredited study in 2011</span></b></a><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
line-height:160%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
line-height:160%'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>Students will use one programming language from the
accompanying list, to develop purpose-designed solutions. In the development of
solutions, students should be able to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:160%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>develop a graphical user interface (GUI), for
use in mobile computing devices, such as laptops, personal digital assistants,
gaming consoles, mobile phones<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:160%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>construct and use data structures, for
example multi-dimensional arrays, records, queues and stacks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:160%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>design, construct and use files (not
databases) to store and retrieve data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:160%;font-family:Symbol'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:160%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>design and apply data validation techniques<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:186.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:160%;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:160%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>use program control structures: selection,
iteration and sequencing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am not sure where these terms came from or how this discussion
started – but hopefully this will help clarify things.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:#002060'>Adrian
Janson </span></b><b><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#002060'>B.Sc, Dip.Ed,
M.Ed<br>
</span></b><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#002060'>Director of ICT<br>
</span></b><span style='color:#244061'>Melbourne High School, Forrest Hill,
South Yarra, Victoria 3141 Australia.<br>
Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<br>
Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<br>
E-mail: <a href="janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>Website: <a
href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au/">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#244061'>Blog: <a
href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/" target="_blank">http://jansona.edublogs.org</a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Schwartz<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 2 July 2010 5:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Approved programming languages for 2011<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Robert</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Exactly, so why does the VCAA Bulletin say:</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> . construct and use data structures,
for example multidimensional arrays, strings, sets, lists, tables, records,
queues and stacks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>OK so they do not want us to connect to a
table in a DB. That is not a problem. The problem is that they have listed
tables and multidimensional arrays separately. I was asking, indirectly,
"is this an oversight on their part or is there a data structure called a
table that is NOT a 2d array, not part of a DB, and that somehow I have
overlooked for the past 30+ years?"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I'm guessing it is the former.</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>John </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>John Schwartz</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Parade College</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>1436 Plenty Road</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bundoora, Victoria, 3083</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phone: 03 9468 3300</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Fax: 03 9467 3937</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>e-mail: jschwartz@parade.vic.edu.au</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>web: www.parade.vic.edu.au</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: Timmer-Arends [<a
href="mailto:timmer@melbpc.org.au">mailto:timmer@melbpc.org.au</a>]</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Fri 25/06/2010 5:55 PM</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Approved
programming languages for 2011</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hello John</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>technically, a table is a data construct for
use in a relational database and nothing else; has an fixed number of columns
and an indefinite number of rows; has a lifetime that goes beyond the life of
the application's execution time; and resides in a long term data store such as
a disk drive. Its contents are generally accessed by matching query criteria,
or by moving to a specific row/record/tuple and then accessing a specific
column/field/attribute. Conceptually, tables are always 2-d but can be part of
a larger structure, the relational database, wherein many tables are related to
each other in some way.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>while a 2-d array is a data construct for use
in a program and is general purpose; (generally) has a fixed number of columns
and rows; has a lifetime that does *not* go beyond the execution time of the
program; and resides in memory. Its contents are generally accessed directly by
targeting a specific cell via 2 indexes. Conceptually, 2-d arrays are a
specific kind of more general data structure, the array, which can in principle
have any number of dimensions, not just 2. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>>From a programming point of view, a 2-d array
is probably much more like a spreadsheet than a database table.</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Robert T-A</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Brighton SC</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> ----- Original Message ----- </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> From: John Schwartz </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> To: Year 12 Software Development
Teachers' Mailing List </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:56 AM</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] Approved
programming languages for 2011</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Hi all,</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Please pardon my ignorance but if we
are not to use databases, what is the difference between a table and a 2D
(multidimensional) array?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> John</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> John
Schwartz</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>
Parade College</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>
1436 Plenty Road</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>
Bundoora, Victoria, 3083</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>
Phone: 03 9468 3300</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>
Fax: 03 9467 3937 </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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e-mail: jschwartz@parade.vic.edu.au | web: www.parade.vic.edu.au</span> <br>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> From: Mark KELLY [<a
href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>] </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Sent: Friday, 25 June 2010 8:30 AM</span>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> To: Year 12 Software Development
Teachers' Mailing List</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Subject: [Year 12 SofDev] Approved
programming languages for 2011</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Hi all. I've just got the latest
bulletin. Here's a rundown of the approved languages for 2011...</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Approved programming languages and
necessary programming skills for 2011 (adapted from VCE Bulletin #80, June
2010) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> "In the development of solutions,
students should be able to:</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> . develop a graphical user interface
(GUI), for use in mobile computing devices, such as laptops, personal digital
assistants, gaming consoles, mobile phones</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> . construct and use data structures,
for example multidimensional arrays, strings, sets, lists, tables, records, queues
and stacks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> . design, construct and use files (not
databases) to store and retrieve data</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> . design and apply data validation
techniques</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> . use program control structures:
selection, iteration and sequencing.</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> The purpose-designed software will entail
the use of objects, methods and their properties, and event-driven</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> programming."</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Approved languages</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> a.. Basic (object-oriented
variations only e.g. VB.NET) </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> b.. C++ </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> c.. C# </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> d.. Objective C </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> e.. Visual Fox Pro </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> f.. Pascal (object-oriented
variations only, e.g. Delphi) </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> g.. Java </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> h.. Perl </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> i.. PHP </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> j.. Python </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> k.. Ruby </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> The bulletin also adds, "With all of
the above languages, databases are not to be used to support the construction
of solutions."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Note the removal of Real Basic, Visual
J and Visual J++, and the addition of Objective C. </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Also note the emphasis on
multidimentional arrays and the specific exclusion of databases: it's good to
get that old argument out of the way!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> -- </span><br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Mark Kelly</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Manager - Information Systems</span> <br>
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