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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually ABC Background Briefing ('cloud
computing') last Sunday highlighted a case where Google had to withdraw a
complex point in their licence agreement re using Google docs. Underneath a
mountain of legal gobbledegook (or should that be googledegook) was a point that
basically said that anything you put into a google doc, Google can do what they
like with it, without reference to you in any way. Apparently they withdrew the
point a day after the launch of google docs because of the outrage that
followed, which was not so much about the idea as about the incredibly obscure
way that Google phrased it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert T-A</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brighton SC</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au
href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">Adrian Janson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sofdev@edulists.com.au
href="mailto:sofdev@edulists.com.au">'Year 12 Software Development Teachers'
Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 SofDev] Adrian's
SAC 401- Legal Advice</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
Russell,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">One
of the reasons that I included the bit about the lengthy licence agreement is
that it has been shown (and I am not sure of how to prove this…) but lengthy
licence agreements like this don’t hold any weight in a court of law as they
are highly unethical. Now – I know that unethical and illegal and two
different things (and this is what makes a good discussion point), but there
was a legal case where a court in the US ruled that it was unreasonable for
the user to be expected to read such as lengthy agreement and then ruled in
the favour of the user.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Someone
might have some good links for this?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">As
for the camera footage – not sure about this one, but it is certainly
unethical.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Adrian<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Adrian
Janson, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">VITTA
President<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Director of
ICT, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Melbourne
High School, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Forrest Hill,
South Yarra 3141 Australia.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Phone: 03
9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Fax: 03 9826
8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">E-mail: <A
href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au"><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Website: <A
href="http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au"><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">http://www.mhs.vic.edu.au</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Consolas">Blog: <A
href="http://jansona.edublogs.org/"><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue">http://jansona.edublogs.org</SPAN></A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au [mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Russell Quinn<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 17 September 2008 9:14
AM<BR><B>To:</B> sofdev@edulists.com.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Year 12 SofDev]
Adrian's SAC 401- Legal Advice<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hi
all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">
I am having trouble working out<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">If The Web Cam
activation is actually illegal. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Would the output
constitute an employee record<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">and is agreeing
upon logon binding – given the<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">shifty way it was
implemented?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">TIA<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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