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color=#0000ff size=2>Marks earlier email was definitely much better articulated
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color=#0000ff size=2>I must admit i did the same thing. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=857263903-21052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I read and
re-read the tasks in the study design. However what i found helpful was the
resources from M.Kelly and K. Kroznian. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>My students are using the Brees paint service task from the
study design,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>I will look at u402 later and will hopefully try to use the
same company scenario but alter the programming task required.
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au
[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Townsley, Andrew
A<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 21 May 2008 1:17 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 SofDev]
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I can program myself but even
I am confused about what they mean.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>. What I want to know is to
what level eg files means what and to what level?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is why I modify currect SACs because
that SAC is of a passable standard.</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf
of WEIR Andrew<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wed 5/21/2008 11:14 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12
Software Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12
SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>From memory the key word is u302 is a module where as u401
is a full program.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>I.e. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=875371101-21052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>U3o2 could just add data to a file.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>u401 needs to add edit and delete.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=875371101-21052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>That's rather simplified version of the difference
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[mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Townsley, Andrew
A<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 21 May 2008 10:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Year 12 Software
Development Teachers' Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Year 12 SofDev]
Proposed Sacs needing feedback ahead of audit<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>What is the main difference between unit3
outcome 2 and unit4 outcome 1.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the study design they both claim to use
files and portable device eg networked device. They look kind of similar. On
outcome 2 unit 3 I am already using files, arrays,structures etc is this too
much?</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au on behalf
of Kevork Krozian<BR><B>Sent:</B> Mon 5/19/2008 3:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
sofdev@edulists.com.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Year 12 SofDev] Proposed Sacs needing
feedback ahead of audit<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Hi Folks,<BR><BR>Andrew Townsley has asked me to write to the
list on his behalf.<BR> Andrew is teaching Software Development and will be
audited this year.<BR>He has written 2 programming SACs in need of feedback
ahead of his audit. These SACs have been posted on Edulists in the password
protected area <A
href="http://www.edulists.com.au/sofdev/download">http://www.edulists.com.au/sofdev/download</A>
.<BR><BR> Andrew would dearly love you as a teacher of SodDev to give him
any positive feedback you can directly to his address at
townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au<BR><BR>He specifically wants to know
:<BR><BR>a) will it pass an audit ?<BR>b) is it
clear enough to understand ?<BR><BR>and he states, " I am betting I can't use
all suggested improvements.".<BR><BR>All comments and suggestions are welcome
and would be very helpful to him<BR><BR><BR>With
thanks<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Kevork Krozian<BR>IT Manager , Forest Hill
College<BR>k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au<BR><A
href="http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Mobile: 0419
356 034<BR><BR>>>> "Townsley, Andrew A"
<townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au> 17/05/2008 10:14 am
>>><BR>yes just announce to the lists and they can email feedback to me
.<BR>I know I can expect responses I dont agree with and some I do.<BR>I just
dont want to respond to every email I get due to time constraints and I wont
overreact to comments I dont' agree with either.<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Kevork Krozian [<A
href="mailto:Kroset@novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au">mailto:Kroset@novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au</A>]<BR>Sent:
Wed 5/14/2008 2:22 PM<BR>To: Townsley, Andrew A<BR>Subject: RE: sacs<BR><BR>Hi
Andrew,<BR><BR> Do you want me to announce it to the lists or do you want
to do it (they are your sacs ) ?<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR><BR>Kevork Krozian<BR>IT
Manager , Forest Hill College<BR>k.krozian@fhc.vic.edu.au<BR><A
href="http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au/">http://www.fhc.vic.edu.au</A><BR>Mobile: 0419
356 034<BR><BR>>>> "Townsley, Andrew A"
<townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au> 14/05/2008 1:31 pm
>>><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>Yes feedback is fine. I just need to know<BR>a)will
it pass an audit<BR>b) is it clear enough to understand.<BR><BR>PS I am betting
I can't use all suggested
improvements.<BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From: Kevork
Krozian [<A
href="mailto:Kroset@novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au">mailto:Kroset@novell1.fhc.vic.edu.au</A>]<BR>Sent:
Wed 5/14/2008 10:04 AM<BR>To: Townsley, Andrew A<BR>Subject: Re:
sacs<BR><BR><BR><BR>Hi Andrew,<BR><BR> Your proposed SACs are posted on
edulists under SofDev , SACs which is password protected ( passwords can be
applied for from the edulists home page ).<BR>Do you want to invite feedback or
would you like me to ask subscribers to give you feedback on your SACs
?<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Kevork<BR><BR>>>> "Townsley, Andrew A"
<townsley.andrew.a@edumail.vic.gov.au> 13/05/2008 11:39 am
>>><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>You asked for my 2 sacs to help me out.<BR><BR>Andrew
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