thank you very much for that. If you have outcome1 that would be great.<br><br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/8/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Mark Kelly</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au">kel@mckinnonsc.vic.edu.au</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Here is my SD U3O2 which I used last year - at least one is based on the<br>good works of Adrian, so kudos to him.<br>
<br>My SD tasks underwent VCAA auditing so they have the Housekeeping Seal<br>of Approval.<br><br>I will send my SD U3O1 - as soon as I can find it.&nbsp;&nbsp;Somehow, I have lost<br>every copy (electronic and printed!).&nbsp;&nbsp;I believe I have a rogue copy at<br>
home so I may send it along later.&nbsp;&nbsp;(Embarrassing!)<br><br>Cheers<br>Mark<br><br><br>andrew barry wrote:<br>&gt; Hi,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I dont have a problem with the solution as i understand it. Some of my<br>&gt; guys have just started VB.net and I dont believe the can reproduce that<br>
&gt; level of response in 10-13 weeks. They could do the SAC as it is<br>&gt; written&nbsp;&nbsp;by the time they do the sac but not the solution to that level<br>&gt; of detail.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Also I cant view the .VSD file as i cant download MS visio viewer as the<br>
&gt; download is corrupt 2003,2007 ver.<br>&gt; Has anyone got the DFD diagram for this?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Are there any other SACs around&nbsp;&nbsp;as i like to have a choice or do i just<br>&gt; modify what i have?<br>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 2/8/08, *Adrian Janson* &lt;<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><br>&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Andrew,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This really highlights a difficulty for me in providing solutions to<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SACs.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I do like to post my SACs to the edulists and each year I receive<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; requests for solutions.&nbsp;&nbsp;Ultimately, &#39;solutions&#39; are going to be<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; based on what level of expectation you place on the students in your<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; class.&nbsp;&nbsp;The important thing is that you grade each SAC in a uniform<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; way and you (and your class) have a clear understanding of what is<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; expected.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The SAC solution which you are referring to is essentially an<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; amalgam of a number of high level responses received from students<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in my class.&nbsp;&nbsp;If you gave this SAC to your class – would you be<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; expecting them to produce an XML file solution in order to achieve<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; full marks?&nbsp;&nbsp;Absolutely not.&nbsp;&nbsp;You should use whatever software you<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; have selected and require students to reproduce the skills which you<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; are teaching them.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Adrian<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *Adrian Janson, *<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *VITTA President*<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *Director of ICT, *<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Melbourne High School,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Forrest Hill, South Yarra 3141 Australia.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Phone: 03 9826 0711 International: +61 3 9826 0711<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fax: 03 9826 8767 International: +61 3 9826 8767<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; E-mail: <a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt;<br>
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&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Childhood Development.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *From:* <a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>&gt;] *On Behalf Of *andrew barry<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *Sent:* Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers&#39; Mailing List<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; on the sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and a detailed GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; top marks as it seems overkill?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On 2/8/08, *Adrian Janson* &lt;<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a><br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au">janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi Andrew,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&amp;order=name%20ASC">http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&amp;order=name%20ASC</a><br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href="http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&amp;order=name%20ASC">http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&amp;order=name%20ASC</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section.&nbsp;&nbsp;If<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; you cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member – so<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; then I would encourage you to sign up as soon as possible!&nbsp;&nbsp;The<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; benefits of being a member are numerous – the most obvious one being<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that you will have access to a large number of resources written by<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; VITTA members stored in the resource section.<br>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; All the best!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Adrian<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hi,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am still after SAC1 and 2 for software development. I emailed<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; VITTA but I wonder what people here are using. I have last years<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SAC1 for network design but no answer sheet.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Any help is appreciated.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>
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