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And of course you know that if you have written your own SAC, that none
of the kids will have seen it before hand (given that these lists are
public!).<br>
I generally give the SAC that I used the previous year as the "practice
SAC" and then re-write one for the current year (that is, if I was
teaching this year). <br>
The more SAC's you write from scratch, the quicker you get at writing
them!<br>
<br>
:)<br>
<br>
Margaret<br>
<br>
Kelly Beattie wrote:
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cite="mid:009801c869fe$4e9f46d0$0361890a@curriculum.drouinsc.edu.vic.gov.au"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">I think that people sometimes forget that you can actually write your own
SAC. By using the assessment advice and the study design you have all of the
resources necessary to develop your own Assessment materials.
By all means use the SACs that are floating around for practice, but it is
100% worth the effort to develop your own SACs. I can say this because I've
done it.
Good luck to those who are willing to give it a go!
Kelly Beattie
Leading Schools Fund Coordinator
Moondah Centre
Drouin Secondary College
South Road, Drouin 3818
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Having thought about this a little bit more (after pressing 'send').
Personally, I don't think you should use the solutions at all.
We all know the course material - I feel that the best way for anyone using
someone else SAC to proceed is to write their own solutions that are
relevant to the skills levels and material covered in their own classes.
Also, by doing so, it is easier to come to grips with the pitfalls and
complications within the SAC.
Cheers,
Adrian
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Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description on the
sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file and a detailed
GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for top marks as it seems
overkill?
On 2/8/08, Adrian Janson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au"><janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au></a> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166">http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166</a>
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All the best!
Cheers,
Adrian
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Hi,
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From: "andrew barry" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jagguy999@gmail.com"><jagguy999@gmail.com></a>
Subject: Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
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Hi,
I dont have a problem with the solution as i understand it. Some of my guys
have just started VB.net and I dont believe the can reproduce that level of
response in 10-13 weeks. They could do the SAC as it is written by the time
they do the sac but not the solution to that level of detail.
Also I cant view the .VSD file as i cant download MS visio viewer as the
download is corrupt 2003,2007 ver.
Has anyone got the DFD diagram for this?
Are there any other SACs around as i like to have a choice or do i just
modify what i have?
On 2/8/08, Adrian Janson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au"><janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap=""> Andrew,
This really highlights a difficulty for me in providing solutions to SACs.
I do like to post my SACs to the edulists and each year I receive requests
for solutions. Ultimately, 'solutions' are going to be based on what
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->level
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">of expectation you place on the students in your class. The important
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<pre wrap=""><!---->thing
</pre>
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<pre wrap="">is that you grade each SAC in a uniform way and you (and your class) have
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->a
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">clear understanding of what is expected.
The SAC solution which you are referring to is essentially an amalgam of a
number of high level responses received from students in my class. If you
gave this SAC to your class would you be expecting them to produce an
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->XML
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">file solution in order to achieve full marks? Absolutely not. You should
use whatever software you have selected and require students to reproduce
the skills which you are teaching them.
Cheers,
Adrian
*Adrian Janson, *
*VITTA President*
*Director of ICT, *
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*From:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a> [mailto:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au">sofdev-bounces@edulists.com.au</a>] *On Behalf Of *andrew barry
*Sent:* Friday, 8 February 2008 12:34 PM
*To:* Year 12 Software Development Teachers' Mailing List
*Subject:* Re: [Year 12 SofDev] SAC1
The u302 module solution is far more detailed than the description on the
sac. The soln has an imported XML file instead of a text file and a
</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!---->detailed
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">GUI. Is the solution just a excellent example for top marks as it seems
overkill?
On 2/8/08, *Adrian Janson* <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au"><janson.adrian.a@edumail.vic.gov.au></a> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
The link to the materials that you are looking for are here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC">http://www.vitta.org.au/resources/list.php?folder_id=166&order=name%20ASC</a>
They are stored on the VITTA web-site in the resources section. If you
cannot access this area, then you are not a VITTA member so then I would
encourage you to sign up as soon as possible! The benefits of being a
member are numerous the most obvious one being that you will have access
to a large number of resources written by VITTA members stored in the
resource section.
All the best!
Cheers,
Adrian
Hi,
I am still after SAC1 and 2 for software development. I emailed VITTA but
I wonder what people here are using. I have last years SAC1 for network
design but no answer sheet.
Any help is appreciated.
_______________________________________________
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